Onomatopoeia - formal designation?

Post Reply
NathanSmith
Posts: 53
Joined: June 10th, 2011, 12:38 am
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Contact:

Onomatopoeia - formal designation?

Post by NathanSmith » June 28th, 2012, 1:05 am

I ran across ψιθυρίζω (whisper) in Sirach and instantly thouguht, "this must be an onomatopoeia." I then read the LSJ entry and it does not say one thing or another about this (unless I missed something). This is not particularly surprising since such a characterization of a word is tangential to the task of a lexicon.

But that leads me to wonder - are there formal etymologic criteria for determining onomatopeia, or is it just "you know it when you hear it"? Anyone know a good list of examples in Greek?

Do people agree that ψιθυρίζω sounds like an onomatopoeia?

David Lim
Posts: 901
Joined: June 6th, 2011, 6:55 am

Re: Onomatopoeia - formal designation?

Post by David Lim » June 28th, 2012, 2:44 am

NathanSmith wrote:I ran across ψιθυρίζω (whisper) in Sirach and instantly thouguht, "this must be an onomatopoeia." I then read the LSJ entry and it does not say one thing or another about this (unless I missed something). This is not particularly surprising since such a characterization of a word is tangential to the task of a lexicon.

But that leads me to wonder - are there formal etymologic criteria for determining onomatopeia, or is it just "you know it when you hear it"? Anyone know a good list of examples in Greek?

Do people agree that ψιθυρίζω sounds like an onomatopoeia?
Any such criteria will probably be highly subjective. In any case, Strabo mentioned a few (κελαρύζειν καὶ κλαγγὴ δὲ καὶ ψόφος καὶ βοὴ καὶ κρότος) (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/tex ... g=original). Middle-Liddel says that "ψιθυριζω" is from "ψιθυρος" which in turn is "Perh. formed from the sound." (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... s-contents).
δαυιδ λιμ

Ken M. Penner
Posts: 711
Joined: May 12th, 2011, 7:50 am
Location: Antigonish, NS, Canada
Contact:

Re: Onomatopoeia - formal designation?

Post by Ken M. Penner » June 28th, 2012, 7:02 am

NathanSmith wrote:Anyone know a good list of examples in Greek?
In the prophets I've been encountering συρίζω "hiss, whistle" quite often.
Ken M. Penner
St. Francis Xavier University

Jonathan Robie
Posts: 2991
Joined: May 5th, 2011, 5:34 pm
Location: Durham, NC
Contact:

Re: Onomatopoeia - formal designation?

Post by Jonathan Robie » June 28th, 2012, 2:00 pm

NathanSmith wrote:Do people agree that ψιθυρίζω sounds like an onomatopoeia?
Yes, but that's very subjective. In English, "tissue" and "bless you" both sound like someone sneezing, but I don't think that explains their derivation. I would not call these onomatopoeia.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
http://jonathanrobie.biblicalhumanities.org/

Stephen Carlson
Posts: 2537
Joined: May 11th, 2011, 10:51 am
Location: Melbourne
Contact:

Re: Onomatopoeia - formal designation?

Post by Stephen Carlson » June 28th, 2012, 4:07 pm

I've always wondered if πτύω was onomatopoeic.
Stephen C. Carlson, Ph.D.
Melbourne, Australia

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest