New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

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New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby cwconrad » May 31st, 2014, 9:02 am

The eventual goal of this site is to quickly assess the vocabulary coverage of a student learning New Testament Greek and to better understand coverage across the lexicon at various stages in a student’s progression.
The immediate goal is just to gather some data. So the site will just test you on your knowledge of the meaning of various nouns in the Greek New Testament.
There are no user accounts so there’s no need to sign up or anything. You can answer as many questions as you like and come back to this site at any time. It’s completely anonymous.
You can be an established Greek scholar or just a beginning student (in fact, I need a wide range of knowledge levels) but you should have learnt at least a small vocabulary.

http://vocab.oxlos.com
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Re: New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby Stephen Hughes » June 1st, 2014, 5:00 am

There is an assumption that knowing a gloss means knowing wat a word means.

It would me much easier if there were pages with 25 or so words together, and if the answer "definitely" implied "give me the next word" please.
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Re: New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby cwconrad » June 1st, 2014, 5:34 am

Stephen Hughes wrote:There is an assumption that knowing a gloss means knowing wat a word means.

It would me much easier if there were pages with 25 or so words together, and if the answer "definitely" implied "give me the next word" please.

I quite agree. It conceives of vocabulary acquisition in the same manner as flash cards and interlinears; it's also pretty much what people want a pocket NT Greek lexicon for. It's the be-all and end-all of the grammar-translation pedagogy at its least common denominator end: "get the gloss" and substitute it for the Greek word, whether it really fits or not. "Assessment" is quantitative, not qualitative.
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Re: New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby Stephen Hughes » June 1st, 2014, 9:14 am

cwconrad wrote:It conceives of vocabulary acquisition in the same manner as flash cards and interlinears; it's also pretty much what people want a pocket NT Greek lexicon for. It's the be-all and end-all of the grammar-translation pedagogy at its least common denominator end: "get the gloss" and substitute it for the Greek word, whether it really fits or not. "Assessment" is quantitative, not qualitative.

The year before last and for 3 years prior to that, I was memorising glosses for the words that occur once or twice (or effectively once or twice because they are in the same set phrases) by rite learning glosses with only limited success.

If this programme allowed me to say that I DO know all the words occurring so many times or more it would be more meaningful, rather than going through words I learnt 20 years ago.
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Re: New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby Shirley Rollinson » June 1st, 2014, 11:30 pm

It does take a VERY long time to work through - and it never seems to end .
It's a bit disconcerting to have proper names mixed in.
And if you're going to give cases other than Nominative Singular, you might ask for parsing also
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Re: New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby Stephen Carlson » June 2nd, 2014, 12:24 am

I got bored and gave up after about five minutes.
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The (empty) promise of statistics

Postby Stephen Hughes » June 2nd, 2014, 12:45 am

Shirley Rollinson wrote:It does take a VERY long time to work through - and it never seems to end .

I saw a promise that statistics would be released if I did 18 more words, then 17, then it went on without seeming to end.
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Re: New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby cwconrad » June 2nd, 2014, 5:11 am

Those of us who've chattered about it seem to agree that it's a stupid "assessment" and one has to wonder cui bono? -- what benefit does any teacher or learner derive from what this sort of device provides? I'm sorry I called attention to it in this forum. I found it in the AWOL (Ancient World On Line listing of Open Source resources for Classicists.
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Re: New Testament Greek Vocabulary Assessment

Postby Shirley Rollinson » June 3rd, 2014, 7:02 pm

It's the sort of thing those of us in the "state-education-system" have to concoct to satisfy govt. burocrats.
That's why I resigned as Chair, and went back to spending my time teaching students.
And even at that I have an increasing amount of busywork to feed into the "education assessment" mill.
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