RandallButh wrote:Well, I have been hopeful that the article has had some positive influence on people.
The article is R. Buth, "Verbs, Perception and Aspect, Greek Lexicography and Grammar: Helping Students to Think in Greek" 177-198, in B. Taylor, et al. edd., Biblical Greek Language and Lexicography, Eerdmans, 2004. (The Danker Festschrift.)
As for principal parts, I treat them partially.
Memorizing a list of "6+ principal-parts" for words like
-- στῆναι ἑστάναι -- 'to stand, be standing'
or -- ἀναστῆναι ἀνίστασθαι -- 'to stand up, be standing up, rising'
or -- στῆσαι ἱστάναι -- 'to be setting up'
is misleading for students and users. To join the above under ἵστημι almost guarantees confusion and lack of fluency.
Better to learn 'pieces' of some traditional verbs and only later to think of them as etymologically joined. This is surely how the Greeks learned their own language. So I am only in favor of principal parts that fit together lexically. I recommend that students focus particularly on the aorist and continuative infinitives in whichever voice is being used*. We have our Greek verb tables set out in such a manner, cutting across some traditional joinings.
PS: *Note the sentence in the first post "I recommend learning the verb in the voice that will be commonly used, αἱρεῖσθαι ἑλέσθαι "choose", ἀφαιρεῖν ἀφελεῖν "take away"
Amen to all of the above!
A remaining question here is:
How should verbs best be lemmatized in a lexicon?
In view of the above, I think it's pretty clear that it should be by the infinitive, either aorist of present (as Randall has noted).
Jonathan Robie wrote:Do you have materials that I could look at equivalent to the standard lists of verbs in other works? If someone wanted to teach this way, what resources are available?
Alan Patterson wrote:Interestingly, Wm Mounce does not have first year students learn accents in Basics of Biblical Greek. Perhaps he feels it is better for 2nd year students, who have enough Greek under their belts, to begin learning accents. Just a wild guess, although he doesn't seem to be too concerned with the accent side of Greek. I wonder if he doesn't believe teaching accents altogether?
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