Two people in our small Greek reading group use this pronunciation, I find it hard to avoid laughing when they say ὅτι, which they pronounce "hottie". So I would probably call this "hottie Greek".Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:It has also been called "Lagas Greek" because the common word λογος becomes λαγας. Whatever my opinion is worth of, this Americanism is the worst kind of insult towards the rest of the world. I would have listened Bill Mounce's audio lectures but had to stop after the first minutes because I couldn't stand his pronounciation... and I really did want to listen to them.RandallButh wrote: I call that, tongue-in-cheek, Astartean
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ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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You're killin' me!!! And that's EXACTLY how I use to pronounce ὅτι (what I was "told" was that omicron was pronounced like an "a" and because of the rough breathing mark you basically put an "h" before the word, so that it was pronounced "HOTTIE")Jonathan Robie wrote:I find it hard to avoid laughing when they say ὅτι, which they pronounce "hottie". So I would probably call this "hottie Greek".
It must be a Friday cause I'm just laughting too much ........
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Just to make sure: of course I have nothing against Mounce or the work he's doing – on the contrary. English speakers are free to pronounce as they want to, but it would be very easy to learn the correct omicron. After all, it's a natural phoneme in English, like in 'awe', 'fall', even 'oh', just a bit shorter. Nothing difficult like the υπσιλον.Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: I would have listened Bill Mounce's audio lectures but had to stop after the first minutes because I couldn't stand his pronounciation...
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You might try looking for You Tube videos of Greek classics - e.g. Aristophanes, Homer, Sophocles, Euripedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suN2Pq6q ... re=related Antigone Greek with English subtitles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTgtvts ... re=related Iphigenia Greek with Englsih subtitles
They tend to have long stretches without much dialogue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8S1b0Hw ... re=related Lysistrata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDO9FnWFWA The Iliad - with a modern Greek pronunciation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziB2oV5x ... re=related another one of the Iliad, with students reciting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziB2oV5x ... re=related Iliad - catalogue of ships, as a Greek folk dance
and for those who like Asterix and Obelix - there are a bunch of Greek-dubbed videos,
e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl5wU7s5 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suN2Pq6q ... re=related Antigone Greek with English subtitles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTgtvts ... re=related Iphigenia Greek with Englsih subtitles
They tend to have long stretches without much dialogue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8S1b0Hw ... re=related Lysistrata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDO9FnWFWA The Iliad - with a modern Greek pronunciation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziB2oV5x ... re=related another one of the Iliad, with students reciting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziB2oV5x ... re=related Iliad - catalogue of ships, as a Greek folk dance
and for those who like Asterix and Obelix - there are a bunch of Greek-dubbed videos,
e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl5wU7s5 ... re=related
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Thanxs Shirley for the links!
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It is not an 'English' phenomenon, but rather an American one. Of course, those who avoid this pitfall may fall into others - like not pronouncing 'ρ' if it happens to come in a position where we don't pronounce 'r'.Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:Just to make sure: of course I have nothing against Mounce or the work he's doing – on the contrary. English speakers are free to pronounce as they want to, but it would be very easy to learn the correct omicron. After all, it's a natural phoneme in English, like in 'awe', 'fall', even 'oh', just a bit shorter. Nothing difficult like the υπσιλον.Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: I would have listened Bill Mounce's audio lectures but had to stop after the first minutes because I couldn't stand his pronounciation...
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Apologies - the link for the Iliad as a folk dance was wrong.
here's the correct one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldZ6PwViiH8
with similar videos at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjBEVFR ... ure=relmfu Aeschylus' Agamemnon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E1ei_U ... ure=relmfu Agamemnon - The Guard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtcZ7WIsKXs&feature=plcp Sophocles' Ode to Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-WaQzFQ ... ontext-cha Sappho poem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFT_w7RT ... ure=relmfu Antigone - Eros chorus
here's the correct one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldZ6PwViiH8
with similar videos at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjBEVFR ... ure=relmfu Aeschylus' Agamemnon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E1ei_U ... ure=relmfu Agamemnon - The Guard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtcZ7WIsKXs&feature=plcp Sophocles' Ode to Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-WaQzFQ ... ontext-cha Sappho poem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFT_w7RT ... ure=relmfu Antigone - Eros chorus