Re: A Model for a New Koine Syntax?
Posted: July 16th, 2013, 1:02 am
The discussion about Eph 1 has been split off and can now be found here: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/vie ... f=6&t=1934
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When you were looking through it, did you notice how much of it was devoted to the treatment of participles? Is it it better or worse than the (fourty-odd pages somewhere near the back) treatment that W's GGBB gives to them?Jonathan Robie wrote: Louis L Sorenson wrote:I've also found Goetchius' "The Language of the New Testament" is very informative on various structures and on par if not better than Funk in some areas).
I bought a copy on this recommendation, along with the workbook, and I have to say that I'm very impressed. Very clear writing, great examples, a constant focus on the bigger picture, approachable vocabulary.
A bit less detailed than Funk, easier to read.
Marking Thought and Talk in New Testament Greek: New Light from Linguistics on the Particles hina and hoti by Margaret G. Sim.Stephen Hughes wrote:I have another issue that I would like to see addressed better in an intermediate grammar, the difference in usage between the infinitive and the subjunctive introduced by ἵνα. I've never thought about past the beginner (understand and translate) stage.
My impression is that this text-type or discourse mode stuff isn't really a mature area of study, despite the fact that you can find research throughout the 20th century working on it. I know of some who are doing it now for Classical Greek and Latin (Rutger Allan, Suzanne Adema, etc. come to mind) but so far it seems to me to be mainly taxonomy and not much else. Though there are some implications for syntax (e.g. the historical present), a lot of it to me seems to fall under style or some equally nebulous category.Stephen Hughes wrote:Another suggestion that I have for a structure of a New Koine Syntax is that syntactical features could be divided by text-type when they are discussed.
Such as for a given feature, "In narrative texts... In descriptive texts... In explanatory texts... In dialogue...". I am only cursorily familiar with these distinctions from my day-to-day teaching of English, and I don't know which way the discussion of text (utterance) types has gone for NT (augmented by other non-NT Koine text types - wills, contracts... ) but I'm sure it must have been studied extensively.
I can see why that would be a place where such an enquiry would happen readily.Stephen Carlson wrote:doing it now for Classical Greek
I find that surprising. The techniques for tackling texts that I teach my ESL students require them to recognise what type of text they are dealing with, and then to ask an appropriate set of questions of the text.Stephen Carlson wrote:text-type or discourse mode stuff isn't really a mature area of study