Goodell's School Grammar of Attic

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Goodell's School Grammar of Attic

Post by Paul-Nitz » February 14th, 2015, 9:37 am

What comments do you have about Goodell's School Grammar of Attic Greek?

Recently digitized by Dickinson College - see:
http://blogs.dickinson.edu/dcc/2015/02/ ... tic-greek/
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Re: Goodell's School Grammar of Attic

Post by cwconrad » February 14th, 2015, 10:35 am

Paul-Nitz wrote:What comments do you have about Goodell's School Grammar of Attic Greek?

Recently digitized by Dickinson College - see:
http://blogs.dickinson.edu/dcc/2015/02/ ... tic-greek/
I've taken a rather cursory look over it. My first judgment is that it's a relatively good brief presentation of the elements of Attic grammar for use in grammar-translation pedagogy. I'm a bit puzzled why this 1902 publication was deemed particularly worth the effort to scan and digitize. Upon checking the presentation of middle verbs, I find the traditional conception of "deponent" verbs as "middle or passive in form with active meaning." It would seem to me that the Goodwin textbook of 1923 or the Goodwin & Gulick of 1930 would be more useful -- but those, of course, are available even today in print editions.
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ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)

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Re: Goodell's School Grammar of Attic

Post by George F Somsel » February 15th, 2015, 2:12 am

Goodwin's Greek Grammar is on community pricing at Logos. You might want to place a bid on it, but you will need to create an account if you don't already have one. If the final price which covers production costs is lower than you have bid, you get the lower price.

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Re: Goodell's School Grammar of Attic

Post by Paul-Nitz » February 16th, 2015, 4:18 am

George F Somsel wrote:Goodwin's Greek Grammar is on community pricing at Logos
Thanks for the heads up. Logos sends so many adds that I've started to ignore them and missed this. I put in a bid.
cwconrad wrote:Upon checking the presentation of middle verbs
The Middle is the first thing I looked at, too. I was interested in the division of middle into the categories Direct (on himself), Indirect (for himself), Subjective (from himself). I wonder if this categorization is unique to Goodell?

I do wish I had a simpler mental catalog of self-affected uses than the list below, but maybe it's just wishing that the complex be simple.

Direct reflexive: λούεσθαι
Indirect reflexive (autobenefactive): ποιεῖσθαι, κτᾶσθαι
Perception: γεύεσθαι, ὀσφραίνεσθαι, αἰσθάνεσθαι
Mental activity: λογίζεσθαι, οἴεσθαι
Speech act: λοιδορεῖσθαι
Reciprocal act: μάχεσθαι,
Mental process· φοβεῖσθαι
Body motion· ὄρμᾶσθαι, ἵστασθαι, κοιμᾶσθαι, ἐγείρεσθαι
Collective motion: ἀγείρεσθαι, συνάγεσθαιi
Spontaneus process: καίεσθαι, σήπεσθαι, γίνεσθαι
Passive: ποιηθῆναι, γεννηθῆναι
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