Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:It's difficult to try to listen foreign language intensively for pronunciation errors.
Yes. Even more so, when it is your own.
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:I have one general advice for those who record their voice: try to make technically as clear and high-quality file as possible, within reasonable limits. For some reason Stephen's file has dark and muddy sound quality. It doesn't affect understandability much, if you are used to listening to the language in question, but makes detailed analysis of phonemes harder. (Compression probably isn't a problem here, but sometimes ruins the sound completely. Don't try to save space by compressing your mp3 files more than in usual high-quality music files! It doesn't save so much space but really can ruin the sound. If you want to save space, cut off the upper frequencies above 15kHz or so, maybe even 10kHz with speech-only.)
Archive.org does its own conversions. The .wav file is the original. Which one were you listening to? I am using a genuine Samsung earpiece microphone, rather than talking into the phone as I had done last year.
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:Your speech is easy and pleasant to listen.
I tried to be less furrow-browed in my reading, less intense, is any of that still a problem.
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:I didn't listen it through but didn't find glaring systematic errors. υ/οι may be inconsistent sometimes, at least I heard it as ου.
I feel that I can keep the difference more consistency in the stem, but not the endings. Perhaps once the new οι/υ is truely internalised, thebendings will be better. Thinking about the case relationship to the syntax means I don't pay so much attention to the accuracy of pronunciation.
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:η is very difficult to pronounce and listen to (I mean for everyone because most are not used to that Restored Koine distinction at all), sometimes I hear it as ε with no hint of ι, sometimes as Finnish ö (oe), sometimes more like Restored η. Personally I would pronounce it as ι rather than ε because it was going to that direction anyway. You could try to make it a bit like ε+ι, beginning with ε and going towards ι, that way it would sound more like the latter but still distinct. Then by learning to make it shorter and one vowel instead of two it can sound like between those two. And maybe it can stay more consistent that way.
Making η a rounded vowel /ø/ helps me to to keep the right number of vowels - which pays off one one advancement with another inaccuracy. Creating a new vowel in one's phonemic system is not an easy thing to do. I usually practice differentiating by doing some sort of scales or progressions one vowel to the next, or with "alternations" like Μηδὲ κληθῆτε καθηγηταί· (Matthew 23:10).
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:The first accent problem is right there in the first word, grave shouldn't be so accented in μετα, instead ταυτα should be more accented.
It is much easier to pout and point with the lips using the οὗτος and τοῦτο initial vowels, than it is in the αὕτη and ταῦτα initial vowels with the Restored Koine pronunciation. The pouting is a good way of slowing down and stressing the demonstrative. I think that I am transferring the English habit of stressing the first and last words of a sentence, or sentence units.
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:verse 3 ερχομεθα has wrong accent.
Actually, I changed the number. I saw ἐρχόμεθα, imagined one person speaking and the others assenting, then said what the one should
say (I have an inculturated distaste for people answering for others and for people speaking at the same time, but this evidently implies that either one or both of those was taking place). I will try not to impose my cultural preferences on the reading.
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:But there aren't many accent errors.
I realise that you are saying οὐ παρετόνισας πολύ, but thinking for a moment, I wonder what sort of accent I would be considered as having in that reading, by a person of the period.
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:your prosody is pretty natural.
The more I read, the more the significant words stand out, and the less attention is paid to the syntax-filling words.
Thank you Eeli, you have given me a lot to think about and to improve.