Re: Emma's picture book idea
Posted: May 30th, 2015, 8:15 pm
Collocations or tenses?Jonathan Robie wrote:Sort of. Are these phrases that you are making up, or finding in Hellenistic texts? The images are good, and they suit the pictures, but I think it's pretty important to be using real texts from the time period.Stephen Hughes wrote:Are you getting at something like this?
The collocations of βιβρώσκειν with lion and crocodile are from LSJ - Homer and Galen respectively. The collocation βιβρώσκειν and κρέας is from the LSJ entry - Theocritus (not a "Hellenistic" genre but presumably he expected that his work have been able to have been understood by a Hellenistic audience) and that it matches the eating habits that I know of lions and crocodiles. The collocation of fox is by analogy with lion. Collocation of vulture or eagle is an assumption that βιβρώσκειν refers more to the devouring / consumption than to the biting - birds of prey rend strips of flesh from an animal rather than bite - which reflects my understanding of the nature of βιβρώσκειν.
τρώγειν is regularly used of eating plants and vegetables. I decided to use those two verbs rather than simply the ἐσθίειν for two reasons; to show the richness of vocabulary that Greek has, and because the pictures show animals in the process of eating rather than exhausting the food supply.
For the tense, no, I didn't try to preserve them. In Adult Modern Greek the "unmarked" form of the verb is the present tense, but in Children's Modern Greek, the form that we might call "aorist" is much more prevalent - i.e. the children see it as unmarked. The loss of distinction between first and second aorists is a major change in the language from Ancient / Koine to Modern. I think that the unmarked form of a verb depends on whether it is first or second aorist. τρώγειν is not an issue in that regard, but βιβρώσκειν is probably being stretched to be being used paradigmatically in the present. Probably a perfect form would be more idiomatic, but for the sake of consistence, and the fact that the pictures showed the process of eating, I chose present.