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A Wiki for Grammatically Indexing Open Source Texts

Posted: May 30th, 2013, 3:59 pm
by Nigel Chapman
Hi all,

This is a project of mine that I put online in order to show off it's javascript at a programming interview earlier this week. It's nowhere near complete, is rough in usability, and may have some pages that don't work. I'm about to return to full time work, and I'm pretty busy with a church plant and a few other fun challenges, but while I've got it online, I'd love to take the chance to get some feedback on this.

Simply put, it's a wiki for Greek texts. It currently contains scans of the Nestle 4th edition (BFBS 1904) from archive.org, and an online transcription of that text that someone from this discussion board posted to their website. It has a wizard for indexing texts, which is rudimentary but already identifies the bulk of NT words correctly. Once indexed, a text has mouse-over parsing, auto-generated vocabularies, and (when I update the code from a previous version) grammatical pattern matching. It combines Strongs glosses and the Perseus lexicon for word data.

Here is Rev 22, which is 93% indexed, first in single panel view (for small screens), then in multi-panel view (which takes advantage of wide monitors):

http://dev.hexap.la/r/rev+22 | http://dev.hexap.la/news/latest::/r/rev ... lp/welcome

Drop me a line or reply here with any thoughts whatsoever. :)

Nigel.

Re: A Wiki for Grammatically Indexing Open Source Texts

Posted: June 2nd, 2013, 5:08 pm
by Nigel Chapman
Two important points omitted from the original summary:

* Anyone can create an account, add scans (though I used a command-line script for ripping the PDF of the Nestle 1904, and would do that again with large texts), add texts, transcribe scans into texts, or morphologically index the texts using a wizard.

* All data is Creative-Commons licensed and offers export mechanisms for use in other projects.

My current questions are:

* What are the best public-domain LXX, ANF, plus the NT Apoc/Pseudep/Etc? I don't need texts, scans at archive.org are quite sufficient. I have googled this, and will be going so again, but I've found with old texts, even online, the best ones seem to be found only by personal referral.

* Is there a full public domain set of manuscript scans anywhere, for one or several of the major text forms? I would love to upload large sets of these, so that they appear alongside references.

Re: A Wiki for Grammatically Indexing Open Source Texts

Posted: June 3rd, 2013, 6:26 am
by Ken M. Penner
Nigel Chapman wrote:* What are the best public-domain LXX, ANF, plus the NT Apoc/Pseudep/Etc? I don't need texts, scans at archive.org are quite sufficient.
For the LXX, see http://www.kalvesmaki.com/LXX/texts.htm
Depending on what you consider "public domain," Swete, Cambridge, or Rahlfs would be appropriate.
For the "OT" Pseudepigrapha, check the "Text Status and Contents" for each document at ocp.tyndale.ca
I imagine Rick Brannan would be the man to ask about the ANF and NT Apocrypha.

Re: A Wiki for Grammatically Indexing Open Source Texts

Posted: June 3rd, 2013, 7:06 am
by Ken M. Penner
Nigel Chapman wrote: Is there a full public domain set of manuscript scans anywhere, for one or several of the major text forms? I would love to upload large sets of these, so that they appear alongside references.
Search archive.org for the manuscript names:
Sinaiticus: http://archive.org/details/GA_01
Alexandrinus: http://archive.org/details/GA_02
Vaticanus: http://archive.org/details/GA_03

Re: A Wiki for Grammatically Indexing Open Source Texts

Posted: June 3rd, 2013, 8:40 am
by Ken M. Penner
Nigel Chapman wrote:* Anyone can create an account, add scans (though I used a command-line script for ripping the PDF of the Nestle 1904, and would do that again with large texts), add texts, transcribe scans into texts, or morphologically index the texts using a wizard.
When I try to upload text or scans, I get "'maintainer' privileges are insufficient to view this page; at least 'editor' privileges are required."

Re: A Wiki for Grammatically Indexing Open Source Texts

Posted: June 3rd, 2013, 3:30 pm
by Nigel Chapman
Hi Ken,

I'll fix that perms issue today; before I set up version tracking it required a higher level of paranoia.

A few demo links, while I think to add them...

1. Workflow: from file to page to index to vocab drill

http://dev.hexap.la/file/view/slug/nest ... v+22.14-21

2. Taking advantage of the panels structure to link parallels:

http://dev.hexap.la/help/pages::/page/v ... -parallels

This will work better when more text is indexed; I may just set the whole NT to Tischendorf initially, to get the ball rolling.

3. Other random goodness (I ripped the Koine Phrasebook into the DB at one stage).

http://dev.hexap.la/book/cloud::/link/l ... arch/speak

Nigel.

Re: A Wiki for Grammatically Indexing Open Source Texts

Posted: June 3rd, 2013, 4:40 pm
by Nigel Chapman
Hi Ken,

Uploading will be fine now; I've tested the changed permissions with some shots from P66, P52 (all in John's gospel):

http://dev.hexap.la/file/list::/file/ga ... /view/id/4

I know Wikipedia uses these Papyrus images from bible-researcher, but I'm not personally sure about their copyright/license status (TBC...).

Nigel.