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Re: Zoom discussion groups of Greek linguistics

Posted: October 6th, 2022, 5:58 am
by Matthew Longhorn
I didn’t get any interest, happy to start something small with you and see if we get interest in the future though.

Re: Zoom discussion groups of Greek linguistics

Posted: October 9th, 2022, 11:16 am
by Jason Hare
Matthew Longhorn wrote: October 6th, 2022, 5:58 am I didn’t get any interest, happy to start something small with you and see if we get interest in the future though.
Do you have a suggestion for the first article to be read? What if people don't have access to the articles?

Re: Zoom discussion groups of Greek linguistics

Posted: October 9th, 2022, 12:30 pm
by Matthew Longhorn
Jason Hare wrote: October 9th, 2022, 11:16 am Do you have a suggestion for the first article to be read? What if people don't have access to the articles?
We could restrict to articles available on academia.edu or researchgate as the primary sources, so access shouldn’t be an issue. Also, BAGL articles would be a good place to start - we could agree one from here http://bagl.org/home. The journal of Greek Linguistics could also be a source https://brill.com/view/journals/jgl/jgl-overview.xml

The question of what article to start with is an interesting one - probably need some criteria that we could apply to whittle things down over time. Things like
1. Accessibility for people with no background in the linguistic theory so that it can be worth the effort
2. How mainstream the theory is (I am thinking things like the tenseless theory of verbs) etc.
3. Whether it is broadly applicable to reading Koine, or is just a niche topic. If it is dealing with a specific text or usage then can it help understand wider texts

As a fairly broad topic - from BAGL this article on the use of contrast could be interesting http://bagl.org/files/volume7/BAGL_7-2_Lunn.pdf

As a slightly niche, but more widely useful paper - Steve Runge’s chapter from the book he edited on the greek prepositions https://www.academia.edu/84438095/8_La ... epositions

As a seriously niche, but potentially impactful option we have this from Brookins - https://www.academia.edu/82974661/The_A ... onians_2_2

Of course, the issue of date/time and frequency will be a big one. Happy to talk with people about options on that though

Thoughts?

Re: Zoom discussion groups of Greek linguistics

Posted: October 12th, 2022, 12:24 am
by Philip Arend
I would be interested in working through Steve Runge's article. The trajector/landmark paradigm seems helpful, but I would like to play around with the ideas to better understand asymmety, construals etc. How much insight can they give to the meaning of the text? In terms of time, I think smaller chunks of time, not too frequently might be best. I'm in a European time zone...zoom times may not be easy....

Re: Zoom discussion groups of Greek linguistics

Posted: October 12th, 2022, 2:18 pm
by Matthew Longhorn
Philip Arend wrote: October 12th, 2022, 12:24 amIn terms of time, I think smaller chunks of time, not too frequently might be best. I'm in a European time zone...zoom times may not be easy....
Agreed on not too frequently. I struggle to keep up on other things I want to read at the moment as it is
I am UK so would be looking at the same sort of times as you I guess

Re: Zoom discussion groups of Greek linguistics

Posted: October 14th, 2022, 3:29 am
by Philip Arend
It doesn't look like anyone else wants to zoom. Perhaps written discussion on the B-Greek forum would garner responses from those with more expertise?

Re: Zoom discussion groups of Greek linguistics

Posted: October 14th, 2022, 10:11 am
by Jonathan Robie
Philip Arend wrote: October 14th, 2022, 3:29 am It doesn't look like anyone else wants to zoom. Perhaps written discussion on the B-Greek forum would garner responses from those with more expertise?
On B-Greek, good questions always create good discussion. Good questions about discourse or modeling prepositions, for instance, will probably get some experts weighing in.

On my side, I might be more interested in Zoom in December or so, we might have some tools that would make it easier to discuss Greek linguistics that way.