Χάρις καὶ ειρήνη

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Ryan Douglas
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Χάρις καὶ ειρήνη

Post by Ryan Douglas » August 9th, 2017, 11:11 pm

Greetings B-Greek Community,

Χαῖρε!

My heart is full on account of finding this online community of Greek Geeks. Εὐλογητὸς Kύριος ὅτι εὕρηκα ὑμῖν!

I have a couple sections with headings below. Feel free to not read them. I kind of wrote a lot, but maybe someone will be interested to read about my educational background and current work.

Background
I began studying Koine in 2005, so I am kind of new to the language still, but probably not as new as some.

I have taken courses Biola University (Talbot School of Theology), Trinity Western University (Associated Canadian Theological Schools) and Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. I have yet to complete a terminal degree, but I earned a MLE (Master of Applied Linguistics and Exegesis) at Trinity Western University, and at the same time, studied at Canada Institute of Linguistics. Part of my focus was on Koine Greek and the Greek New Testament. I did discourse analysis in the Gospel according to John, and analyzed & described Koine Greek using Role and Reference Grammar. I also read and wrote a bit in philosophy of language.

My professional background includes teaching English as a second and foreign language and also teaching articulatory phonetics. This year I will teach Greek for the first time to student-translators from four different language communities in the South Pacific.

Current Research and Ministry
Currently, I work as a Translation Specialist which involves being an instructor and an exegetical advisor. I am assisting translators and committees from two different language communities in the South Pacific to translate the Greek New Testament into their languages for the first time. A bit has been drafted into both languages previously, but nothing has been published yet.

The curriculum I am developing for Greek will lead the students into Greek using an eclectic communicative approach. I am writing an annotated bibliography for Communicative Koine Greek Pedagogy as I work on developing curriculum (Greek 1-4 and New Testament Exegesis 1-4) for the small institute I work at here in the South Pacific.

Anyway that is a bit about me and what I am up to these days.

Looking forward to reading here,
Ryan Douglas

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Re: Χάρις καὶ ειρήνη

Post by MAubrey » August 10th, 2017, 11:07 am

Hi Ryan,

Welcome! It's always nice to have more from CanIL.

Mike
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Re: Χάρις καὶ ειρήνη

Post by Jonathan Robie » August 10th, 2017, 2:20 pm

Welcome to B-Greek!

The things you are working on are of interest to many, including me. Please feel free to share them here or ask for help in developing them. For your annotated bibliography, I assume you are familiar with the work of Randall Buth, Christophe Rico, Paul Nitz, Louis Sorenson, ancient-greek-best-practices@googlegroups.com, Textkit, Where Are Your Keys, TPR, TPRS, ESL/SSL resources, SIOP, and the communicative materials that Micheal Palmer and I are developing?
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
http://jonathanrobie.biblicalhumanities.org/

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Re: Χάρις καὶ ειρήνη

Post by Stirling Bartholomew » August 10th, 2017, 4:00 pm

Greetings Ryan,

I would assume your NT Greek students are new to the subject and therefore untainted by exposure to the historically dominate seminary greek framework. That gives you an opportunity to improve on the past.

I have been getting updated on greek aspectology in the last several weeks. One of the articles[1] from the 2015 Cambridge Greek Potlach (clam bake) appears to have some useful material for developing an introduction to the Greek verb system and you don't need to purchase the book since the article is available for download[2].

Obviously you don't want to teach the contents of this paper to new students. But the organization of the tables which represent an aspect based presentation of the verb system could be adopted (ripped off) for a first year greek course. This approach simplifies and it can be reduced to nonthreatening terminology unlike most literature on verb aspect.

c stirling bartholomew

Postscript:

If you have problems getting the pdf, send me a private message and I will email it to you.



[1]THE GREEK VERBAL SYSTEM AND ASPECTUAL
PROMINENCE: REVISING OUR TAXONOMY AND
NOMENCLATURE
NICHOLAS J. ELLIS, MICHAEL G. AUBREY, AND MARK DUBIS*

Abstract: Verbal systems can give prominence to tense, aspect, or mood. The morphology of
the verbal system within biblical Greek provides important evidence to suggest that Greek is an
aspect-prominent language, though one that also incorporates tense within the indicative mood.
Certain traditional grammatical labels inappropriately treat Greek as though it were instead a
tense-prominent language like English (e.g. the use of “present” or “tense formative” outside of
the indicative mood). We need to reform our descriptive labels and general conception of Greek
accordingly. In doing so, the simplicity and beauty of the Greek verbal system emerges, offering
pedagogical advantages for teachers of Greek and challenging exegetes to properly account for
Greek’s particular configuration of tense, aspect, and mood.
Key Words: Greek grammar, aspect, tense, morphology, linguistics[/i]

JETS 59/1 (2016): 33–62

[2]
http://bm-cdn.biblemesh.com/mediaconten ... _Promi.pdf
C. Stirling Bartholomew

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Re: Χάρις καὶ ειρήνη

Post by Jason Hare » August 15th, 2017, 11:52 pm

Ryan Douglas wrote:
August 9th, 2017, 11:11 pm
Χαῖρε!
Χαῖρε καὶ σύ! :)
Ryan Douglas wrote:
August 9th, 2017, 11:11 pm
My heart is full on account of finding this online community of Greek Geeks. Εὐλογητὸς Kύριος ὅτι εὕρηκα ὑμῖν!
εὕρηκας ἡμᾶς; ναί, ἡμᾶς εὕρηκας!

We're glad you found us, too. Welcome to the forum. :)
Ryan Douglas wrote:
August 9th, 2017, 11:11 pm
I began studying Koine in 2005, so I am kind of new to the language still, but probably not as new as some.
Very nice. What textbooks did you learn from? How do you keep up your Greek now?
Ryan Douglas wrote:
August 9th, 2017, 11:11 pm
My professional background includes teaching English as a second and foreign language and also teaching articulatory phonetics. This year I will teach Greek for the first time to student-translators from four different language communities in the South Pacific.
I taught English for five years in Israel, where I live. I may go back to teaching next year, though I'm not sure right now. Good luck with your Greek students!
Jason A. Hare
Tel Aviv, Israel

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