
The extra 1% in size makes a surprising amount of difference.
It looks like fine to me in Arial Unicode MS, but the example does not include the holam, which is the vowel point that fonts mess up (in my experience).Ken M. Penner wrote:How does the Hebrew look in viewtopic.php?f=7&t=260&p=1074&sid=4f0a ... 63a6#p1064
I think Arial Unicode MS is the culprit, spacing the vowel points. Could we please place Tahoma before Arial Unicode MS in the font list?
On my end, the Hebrew looks fine. The patach sorta touches the baseline of the ayin, but generally, it looks OK. (Then again, I'm kinda used to reading Hebrew without vowel points, so if I relied on the vowels they might be a little small. And personally, I don't really like how Tahoma places Hebrew vowels. At least on my end, Arial Unicode MS is much better with Hebrew than Tahoma.)Ken M. Penner wrote:How does the Hebrew look in viewtopic.php?f=7&t=260&p=1074&sid=4f0a ... 63a6#p1064
I think Arial Unicode MS is the culprit, spacing the vowel points. Could we please place Tahoma before Arial Unicode MS in the font list?
Browsers keep a list of fonts in order of precedence; a character falls through them until it finds one that can display it. Every OS has a final, invisible fallback font which just shows the square with the four digits inside that you may have seen occasionally when Unicode wasn't otherwise working. Didot definitely will not supply Hebrew characters, so for better or worse the browser's default serif font will take over.This isn't a Hebrew forum, though. If we set everything to GFS Didot, I don't know that the Hebrew text would show up at all. I'm all about Hebrew, but I'm not sure what everyone else thinks about the necessity of finding a font that supports it particularly.
What is the problem for which Didot and JavaScript is the solution?Nigel Chapman wrote:Didot definitely will not supply Hebrew characters, so for better or worse the browser's default serif font will take over.
My preference would be to auto-detect the Hebrew character range the same way that we're considering for Greek, and specifically assign it some sensible fonts. I have no meaningful knowledge of Hebrew, however, so any advice on this would be appreciated. Nothing in the Google Font Directory covers the Hebrew character range, so embedding would fiddlier than for Greek; if something like Tahoma is dependable it may be the best approach at least on Windows.
As an example of some typical problem areas, we could use תִּמְלֹ֣ךְ with a dagesh, holam, raised shwa in final kaf, and cantillation marks. How do the various fonts handle this?sccarlson wrote:Ken M. Penner wrote: It looks like fine to me in Arial Unicode MS, but the example does not include the holam, which is the vowel point that fonts mess up (in my experience).
Stephen
(But I prefer Tahoma to Arial, anyway.)