Greek/English Facing Page Patristic Texts

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Greek/English Facing Page Patristic Texts

Post by tdbenedict » August 30th, 2014, 5:41 pm

Besides the few volumes in the Loeb series, is there a good source for book with the fathers in greek text with english facing pages? St Vladimir's press has a couple of volumes. Am I missing an obvious book series or similar source?
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Post by Seumas Macdonald » August 31st, 2014, 1:36 am

I'm working on something related at present, which you can see at http://patristicreaders.com/. Not quite Greek with facing English, but Greek with vocabulary and notes.
A second pdf volume should be available in about 2 months, with a third pdf and an initial print volume at the end of the year.

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Post by cwconrad » August 31st, 2014, 6:30 am

tdbenedict wrote:Besides the few volumes in the Loeb series, is there a good source for book with the fathers in greek text with english facing pages? St Vladimir's press has a couple of volumes. Am I missing an obvious book series or similar source?
One very nice such Greek text with facing English version is Michael Holmes' edition of The Apostolic Fathers: Greek Texts and English Translations.
http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/t ... ion/282870
This is a splendid volume produced by Baker Academic (by our occasional long-time contributor, James Ernest) with a beautiful new Greek font (it was new when this appeared seven years ago).
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)

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Post by Jonathan Robie » August 31st, 2014, 7:07 am

cwconrad wrote:One very nice such Greek text with facing English version is Michael Holmes' edition of The Apostolic Fathers: Greek Texts and English Translations.
http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/t ... ion/282870
This is a splendid volume produced by Baker Academic (by our occasional long-time contributor, James Ernest) with a beautiful new Greek font (it was new when this appeared seven years ago).
I'll second that. It's a beautiful book.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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Post by Louis L Sorenson » August 31st, 2014, 4:37 pm

Tim,

Which books on St, Vladimir Seminary Press are Greek-English diglotts? http://www.svspress.com/categories/Popu ... cs-Series/.

Patristics is not my area of expertise. But I'll add what I know, and let others chime in. The Greek-Orthodox site monachos.net http://monachos.net/ has a patristics section and perhaps you could post your question there and then get back to us. It has a forum similar to B-Greek's forum. B-Greek does have a forum for Patristics (http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewforum.php?f=41 - where you made this post). The standard Greek text for many patristics is Migne's Patrologia Graeca, What you may be looking for is a Migne/Schaaf diglott. I don't think that exists, but it would be a great project. Logos software is digitizing Migne (https://www.logos.com/product/28902/pat ... ies-latina and can currently be bought for about 25% of the post production cost.

The Loeb series books can be found at http://www.hup.harvard.edu/results-list ... mit=Search. I'm not sure which books available for the church fathers and patristics beyond the apostolic fathers. Note that Logos software has parallel (interlinear sort of) text (for Kirsop Lake, Lightfoot and Holmes) editions, but unfortunately, do not present a side-by-side nor a simple clean Greek text - this is very frustrating. The same is true for their Josephus - the reader is given basically an interlinear, with parsing, but not the unadulterated Greek text.So the reader is forces to read the text from Perseus or TLG or some other online edition.

If you are looking for patristic resources, the CCEL (Christian Classics Ethereal Library) provides access to Philip Schaaf's works (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff?show=worksBy). The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers can be found at http://www.ccel.org/index/title/N. Here are the volumes listed there.

NPNF-211. Sulpitius Severus, Vincent of Lerins, John Cassian (Philip Schaff)
NPNF-212. Leo the Great, Gregory the Great (Philip Schaff)
NPNF-213. Gregory the Great (II), Ephraim Syrus, Aphrahat (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-01. The Confessions and Letters of St. Augustine, with a Sketch of his Life and Work (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-02. St. Augustine's City of God and Christian Doctrine (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-03. On the Holy Trinity; Doctrinal Treatises; Moral Treatises (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-04. Augustine: The Writings Against the Manichaeans and Against the Donatists (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-05. St. Augustine: Anti-Pelagian Writings (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-06. St. Augustine: Sermon on the Mount; Harmony of the Gospels; Homilies on the Gospels (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-07. St. Augustine: Homilies on the Gospel of John; Homilies on the First Epistle of John; Soliloquies (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-08. St. Augustine: Exposition on the Book of Psalms (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-09. St. Chrysostom: On the Priesthood; Ascetic Treatises; Select Homilies and Letters; Homilies on the Statutes (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-10. St. Chrysostom: Homilies on the Gospel of Saint Matthew (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-11. Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on the Acts of the Apostles and the Epistle to the Romans (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-12. Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on the Epistles of Paul to the Corinthians (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-13. Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, and Philemon (Philip Schaff)
NPNF1-14. Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on the Gospel of St. John and the Epistle to the Hebrews (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-01. Eusebius Pamphilius: Church History, Life of Constantine, Oration in Praise of Constantine (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-02. Socrates and Sozomenus Ecclesiastical Histories (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-03. Theodoret, Jerome, Gennadius, & Rufinus: Historical Writings (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-04. Athanasius: Select Works and Letters (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-05. Gregory of Nyssa: Dogmatic Treatises, Etc. (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-06. Jerome: The Principal Works of St. Jerome (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-07. Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory Nazianzen (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-08. Basil: Letters and Select Works (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-09. Hilary of Poitiers, John of Damascus (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-10. Ambrose: Selected Works and Letters (Philip Schaff)
NPNF2-14. The Seven Ecumenical Councils (Philip Schaff)

So those volumes above are listed as English translations. Some of Schaaf's volumes have the Greek text such as the Creeds of Christendom.

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Re: Greek/English Facing Page Patristic Texts

Post by tdbenedict » September 1st, 2014, 10:27 am

Thanks, everyone, for the input ---
Louis L Sorenson wrote:Which books on St, Vladimir Seminary Press are Greek-English diglotts? http://www.svspress.com/categories/Popu ... cs-Series/.
The two Greek/English volumes in the Popular Patristics series are St. Athanasius On the Incarnation (44A) and St. Gregory of Nazianus Poems on Scripture (46). I'm just finishing On the Incarnation. The books are small, like Loebs. Note: For On the Incarnation, Volume 44A is Greek/English, while Volume 44B is just English.

Thanks
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Re: Greek/English Facing Page Patristic Texts

Post by James Ernest » October 24th, 2014, 12:45 pm

No one mentioned this?
Oxford Early Christian Texts
http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/category/aca ... on/oect.do
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Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co.
Grand Rapids, MI
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