JBarach-Sr wrote:I think a person has to begin with flashcards to gain some vocabulary.
Coupled with that, he needs to understand the grammar.
Those are usually taught in the first year of Greek classes.
Different people probably have different learning styles.
I've always learned vocabulary better from sentences than from flashcards. Right now I'm working my way through Funk, reviewing my Greek grammar, and I'm finding that I also learn grammar better from sentences than from flashcards. Your mileage may vary.
Let me expand on the OP. I wanted to memorize the present active participles of εἰμί. Here's what I did:
I started with a conventional table, which contained the material I wanted to review (excuse the formatting, I don't have time to get it right):
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singular
N/V ὢν οὖσα ὄν
G ὄντος οὔσης ὄντος
D ὄντι οὔσῃ ὄντι
A ὄντα οὖσαν ὄν
plural
N/V ὄντες οὖσαι ὄντα
G ὄντων οὐσῶν ὄντων
D οὖσι(ν) οὔσαις οὖσι(ν)
A ὄντας οὔσας ὄντα
Then I did a series of queries to get examples of each of the forms, in sentences (a few did not occur). Here are examples for the singular portion:
- ὁ ὢν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος
- καὶ γυνὴ οὖσα ἐν ῥύσει αἵματος ἀπὸ ἐτῶν δώδεκα
- μικρότερον ὂν πάντων τῶν σπερμάτων τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς καὶ ὅταν σπαρῇ
- Καὶ ὄντος αὐτοῦ ἐν Βηθανίᾳ ἐν τῇ οἰκίᾳ Σίμωνος τοῦ λεπροῦ
- ὀψὲ ἤδη οὔσης τῆς ὥρας
- οὐκ ὄντος αὐτῷ τέκνου
- Ὁ θεὸς τῆς δόξης ὤφθη τῷ πατρὶ ἡμῶν Ἀβραὰμ ὄντι ἐν τῇ Μεσοποταμίᾳ
- οὔσῃ ἐγκύῳ
- --
- εἰ δὲ τὸν χόρτον τοῦ ἀγροῦ σήμερον ὄντα καὶ αὔριον εἰς κλίβανον βαλλόμενον ὁ θεὸς οὕτως ἀμφιέννυσιν
- ταύτην δὲ θυγατέρα Ἀβραὰμ οὖσαν
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Then I simply queried for all active present participles of εἰμί in the GNT, making sure I understood what they agree with in the sentence (this is just an excerpt):
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(Book 01 01:19) δίκαιος ὢν καὶ μὴ θέλων αὐτὴν δειγματίσαι ,
(Book 01 06:30) εἰ δὲ τὸν χόρτον τοῦ ἀγροῦ σήμερον ὄντα καὶ αὔριον εἰς κλίβανον βαλλόμενον ὁ θεὸς οὕτως ἀμφιέννυσιν ,
(Book 01 07:11) εἰ οὖν ὑμεῖς πονηροὶ ὄντες οἴδατε δόματα ἀγαθὰ διδόναι τοῖς τέκνοις ὑμῶν ,
(Book 01 12:30) ὁ μὴ ὢν μετ’ ἐμοῦ κατ’ ἐμοῦ ἐστιν ,
(Book 01 12:34) πῶς δύνασθε ἀγαθὰ λαλεῖν πονηροὶ ὄντες ;
(Book 02 02:26) καὶ ἔδωκεν καὶ τοῖς σὺν αὐτῷ οὖσιν ;
(Book 02 04:31) μικρότερον ὂν πάντων τῶν σπερμάτων τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς καὶ ὅταν σπαρῇ ,
(Book 02 05:25) καὶ γυνὴ οὖσα ἐν ῥύσει αἵματος δώδεκα ἔτη καὶ πολλὰ παθοῦσα ὑπὸ πολλῶν ἰατρῶν καὶ δαπανήσασα τὰ παρ’ αὐτῆς πάντα καὶ μηδὲν ὠφεληθεῖσα ἀλλὰ μᾶλλον εἰς τὸ χεῖρον ἐλθοῦσα ,
(Book 02 08:01) Ἐν ἐκείναις ταῖς ἡμέραις πάλιν πολλοῦ ὄχλου ὄντος καὶ μὴ ἐχόντων τί φάγωσιν ,
(Book 02 11:11) Καὶ εἰσῆλθεν εἰς Ἱεροσόλυμα εἰς τὸ ἱερόν καὶ περιβλεψάμενος πάντα ὀψὲ ἤδη οὔσης τῆς ὥρας ἐξῆλθεν εἰς Βηθανίαν μετὰ τῶν δώδεκα .
(Book 02 14:03) Καὶ ὄντος αὐτοῦ ἐν Βηθανίᾳ ἐν τῇ οἰκίᾳ Σίμωνος τοῦ λεπροῦ κατακειμένου αὐτοῦ ἦλθεν γυνὴ ἔχουσα ἀλάβαστρον μύρου νάρδου πιστικῆς πολυτελοῦς συντρίψασα τὴν ἀλάβαστρον κατέχεεν αὐτοῦ τῆς κεφαλῆς
etc.
Does that make more sense? I'm basically looking for examples of the verb forms I want to learn how to distinguish. I find that I learn better this way than using flashcards.
JBarach-Sr wrote:However, once a person has gained some understanding of those ingredients, I like to point a person to the following site
http://www.motorera.com/greek/text/greek.html.
Upon choosing a particular book and chapter, a person can begin reading and understanding the context.
When there is an unfamiliar word, a simple click takes the person to a lexicon giving parsing and meaning.
In some cases, even hovering over the word gives its basic meaning.
In this way a person can read the text not as isolated words, but in union with the whole of a paragraph.
I find this kind of site helpful for checking my work, but not as helpful for learning a form that I failed to recognize in the text. I'd love it if these sites would break down the morphology of a verb form for me, instead of just giving me the parse code. One of the reasons I am really working on morphology right now is that I've been using too many crutches as I read.
I like your site quite a bit, but not for mastering morphology.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;