We have:
Δικαιωθεντες οὐν ἐκ πιστεως εἱρηνην ἐχομεν προς τον θεον δια του κυριου ἡμων Ιησου Χριστου.
which is translated (NIV).
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Could we shift the comma and have the translation read:
Therefore being justified, by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
or
Therefore being justified, we have peace with God by faith through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Roger Hutchinson
Romans 5:1
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Re: Romans 5:1
I think the comma shift is an inferior option for two reasons:rhutchin wrote: Δικαιωθεντες οὐν ἐκ πιστεως εἱρηνην ἐχομεν προς τον θεον δια του κυριου ἡμων Ιησου Χριστου.
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Could we shift the comma and have the translation read:
Therefore being justified, by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
1. Being justified ἐκ πίστεως is a common Pauline collocation. It is natural that they go together.
2. If the comma were after the οὖν, then the pre-verbal field of ἔχομεν would be awfully crowded. The focus of the sentence is the peace that we have, and the best position for it is at the beginning of its clause.
Stephen
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Re: Romans 5:1
While I agree with Stephen, I also think that Roger’s punctuation captures very well the essence of the verse. I would paraphrase the comma shift thusStephen wrote: I think the comma shift is an inferior option…
ἡμῖν μὲν οὖν ἐκ πίστεως, δικαιοσύνη μὲν, εἰρήνη δὲ πρὸς τὸν θεόν.