timothy_p_mcmahon wrote:αὐτὸν is singular. πόδας is plural. Your idea fails a simple test of grammatical concord.
goyomarquez wrote:Ephesians 1:22 22 καὶ πάντα ὑπέταξεν ὑπὸ τοὺς πόδας αὐτοῦ, καὶ αὐτὸν ἔδωκεν κεφαλὴν ὑπὲρ πάντα τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ,
23 ἥτις ἐστὶν τὸ σῶμα αὐτοῦ, τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ τὰ πάντα ἐν πᾶσιν πληρουμένου.
Have been mulling this scripture over for a couple years and the usual translations don't seem to make a lot of sense.
I'm thinking that αὐτὸν refers to πόδας not to αὐτοῦ.
David Lim wrote:Besides what Timothy said, your second suggestion cannot work also because "αυτον" cannot point to something not yet in focus, and "η εκκλησια" has not even been mentioned yet. Also, "παντα υπεταξεν υπο τους ποδας αυτου" is just a figurative expression for "he subjected all things completely to him", and "αυτον εδωκεν κεφαλην υπερ παντα τη εκκλησια" is likewise figurative for "he gave him to the assembly as the one with complete authority over all things". Does that make sense?
goyomarquez wrote:What could it possibly mean that God gave Jesus to the assembly?
timothy_p_mcmahon wrote:goyomarquez wrote:What could it possibly mean that God gave Jesus to the assembly?
The answer to that question strays more into theology than is appropriate for this board, but it seems that God giving Christ to the church is a readily comprehensible idea.
It's also possible that Paul's thought is betraying its Hebrew origins and εδωκεν means something more like 'placed' (as Hebrew נתן).
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