Stephen Carlson wrote:As to the first option, I don't see the purpose of talking about every person who comes into the world: Are there people who don't come into the world?
rhutchin wrote:John 1:9-10
9 Ήν το φως το άληθινον ὸ φωτιζει παντα άνθρωπον έρχομενον εις τον κοσμον 10 έν τῳ κοσμῳ ἠν ...
Translators take this verse two different ways. They are:
1. That was the true light, which lighteth every man coming into the world; and
2. That was the true light which, coming into the world, lighteth every man. (NET Bible supports this sense.)
Given the confusion (at least, to me), is this an example of poor Greek writing skills by a non-native Greek speaker or could it have been purposely written this way with the natural expectation that the reader would link έρχομενον εις τον κοσμον with the following έν τῳ κοσμῳ ήν and naturally read v9 per translation 2 above?
Is there a grammatical reason for structuring the sentence in this manner which seems confusing to us 2000 years later but may possibly have been quite ordinary back then?
Seems to me that you've ignored the obvious majority take on the verse, which is that ἦν... ἐρχόμενον is periphrastic with τὸ φῶς τὸ ἀληθινόν as the subject. This is also how the NA27 distinguishes it through use of commas.
Dean_Poulos wrote:I was not disagreeing with the grammar, (I’m not even qualified) I only said I seem to see this pattern in John’s writings and cited: “Jn. 12.46 “ἐγὼ φῶς εἰς τὸν κόσμον ἐλήλυθα” “I have come as a light into the world,” which is (I think) a periphrastic participle in the imperfect tense. Perhaps his use of extreme contrasts brings this out, I have no idea.
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