rhutchin wrote:Acts 13:48 includes this:
και ἐπιστευσαν ὁσοι ἡσαν τεταγμενοι εἰσζην αἰωνιον
Someone explained this verse thusly, "οσοι (all who, a subgroup of a previously identified main group) introduces a subordinate clause, but "believed" is in the main clause. In the subordinate clause (including οσοι) there is only "all who had been appointed to eternal life". The conditions stated in a subordinate clause depend on those in the main clause for their existence. Putting it simply, "believed" results (directly or indirectly) in "appointed". "
I objected saying, " 'Believed' is not the cause of someone being appointed; it is a quality (or status) obtained by those described as "appointed." Those people who had been appointed believed."
The person responded,"If the circumstances were as you describe, the author would not have used a subordinate clause - he would have used a genitive clause: it would include a γαρ or at least begin with a και or some similar particle. I won't ask you to believe me when I say that the conditions of a subordinate clause are subject to the conditions of its main clause."
Is this person correct in his analysis?
Additional analysis provided by the perosn above:
"Also stated in Robertsons exposition "The Jews here had voluntarily rejected the word of God." - at least he admitted it was voluntary.
"The subject of the verb is the relative clause. By no manner of legerdemain can it be made to mean 'those who believed were appointed[/i].'"WRONG CONJUGATION. Believed is conjugated for the plural - if the relative clause was the subject, "believed" would need to be singular.
The verb and its subject must be in the same clause. To support Robertsons's point of view, it would be necessary to first move "believed" from the main clause to the relative clause, which, putting it bluntly, would be major text wresting.
If the subject of "believed" was not the relative clause as a whole but οσοι, the "and" separating "believed" from "all who" would need to be relocated to precede believed. In translation even then, "believed" would need to be placed between "all who" and "had been appointed" - making it "all who believed had been appointed" - a direct contradiction of Robertson's claim.και
οσοι - and
all of the previously stated people (all who did so) had been appointed to eternal life. It is an epilogue, in the same pattern as "and they all lived happily ever after."
Again, is he correct in his analysis?