Nomos

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Nomos

Postby Marc Possoff » January 26th, 2013, 8:46 am

Most of the sources I have access too have nomos as; custom, tradition or norm, Jewish practices. So I'm seeing that nomos can be very broad not necessarily meaning Torah/Jewish practices every time.

Romans 10:4 as an example....

"For Christ is the end of the NOMOS for righteousness to everyone who believes"

How do we know it means the Torah/commandments/Jewish practices?

"For Christ is the end of the custom/ tradition/norm/Jewish practices for righteousness to everyone who believes"

Could this pertain to the righteousness that Paul also has written? That the nomos(whatever it means in context) pertains to the end of righteousness? Perseus has righteousness as righteousness, justice. Does righteousness also mean justice as in a 'judicial' sense if it also means justice? Is righteousness and justice one in the same?

So can it also mean...?

" For Christ is the end of the custom/tradition/norm/Jewish practices for justice to everyone who believes" in a 'judicial sense? Why do I think it's 'judicial'. Because Christ paid the penalty for sin for those that believe.

So it can go either way. Either Christ is the end of the Jewish practices for those that believe or Christ is the end of the penalty for those that believe.
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Re: Nomos

Postby Jason Hare » January 27th, 2013, 12:09 pm

This is surely too steeped in theology for us to engage here. I'll contact you by PM to let you know some online places that you might be interested in bringing this up at.

As per a more appropriate topic, you might ask about the general uses of νόμος in the New Testament - without all of the theological implications that go with it. How did Paul use νόμος? Did it always take a generalized meaning akin to "custom, etc."? How can we tell if he is referring specifically to the Mosaic law (Torah) in a given context? Et cetera.
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Re: Nomos

Postby Marc Possoff » January 28th, 2013, 5:50 pm

Jason Hare wrote:This is surely too steeped in theology for us to engage here. I'll contact you by PM to let you know some online places that you might be interested in bringing this up at.

As per a more appropriate topic, you might ask about the general uses of νόμος in the New Testament - without all of the theological implications that go with it. How did Paul use νόμος? Did it always take a generalized meaning akin to "custom, etc."? How can we tell if he is referring specifically to the Mosaic law (Torah) in a given context? Et cetera.


With all due respect I'm not sure the question is about theology.
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Re: Nomos

Postby Devenios Doulenios » January 29th, 2013, 12:21 pm

Hi Marc,

I suggest you try some concordance searches of the Greek NT itself to see how Paul uses nomos in various contexts. You can at least draw some preliminary conclusions that way and then ask more questions as they occur to you.

You could start with The Online Greek Bible, http://www.greekbible.com/, which has a searchable Nestle-Aland 26th ed./ United Bible Societies 3rd ed. Greek NT.

All the best,

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Re: Nomos

Postby Marc Possoff » January 29th, 2013, 2:42 pm

Devenios Doulenios wrote:Hi Marc,

I suggest you try some concordance searches of the Greek NT itself to see how Paul uses nomos in various contexts. You can at least draw some preliminary conclusions that way and then ask more questions as they occur to you.

You could start with The Online Greek Bible, http://www.greekbible.com/, which has a searchable Nestle-Aland 26th ed./ United Bible Societies 3rd ed. Greek NT.

All the best,

Δεβἐνιος
Devenios


Thank you! greekbible.com says nomos doesn't always mean Law of Moses. It has many definitions.
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Re: Nomos

Postby Jason Hare » January 29th, 2013, 2:51 pm

Marc Possoff wrote:
Devenios Doulenios wrote:Hi Marc,

I suggest you try some concordance searches of the Greek NT itself to see how Paul uses nomos in various contexts. You can at least draw some preliminary conclusions that way and then ask more questions as they occur to you.

You could start with The Online Greek Bible, http://www.greekbible.com/, which has a searchable Nestle-Aland 26th ed./ United Bible Societies 3rd ed. Greek NT.

All the best,

Δεβἐνιος
Devenios


Thank you! greekbible.com says nomos doesn't always mean Law of Moses. It has many definitions.


Be advised, though, that this doesn't mean that it never refers to the Torah either.
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Re: Nomos

Postby Marc Possoff » February 2nd, 2013, 12:14 pm

Jason Hare wrote:
Marc Possoff wrote:
Devenios Doulenios wrote:Hi Marc,

I suggest you try some concordance searches of the Greek NT itself to see how Paul uses nomos in various contexts. You can at least draw some preliminary conclusions that way and then ask more questions as they occur to you.

You could start with The Online Greek Bible, http://www.greekbible.com/, which has a searchable Nestle-Aland 26th ed./ United Bible Societies 3rd ed. Greek NT.

All the best,

Δεβἐνιος
Devenios


Thank you! greekbible.com says nomos doesn't always mean Law of Moses. It has many definitions.


Be advised, though, that this doesn't mean that it never refers to the Torah either.


I agree only the context would tell you what nomos means.
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