ego eimi in job 33:31
Posted: December 18th, 2013, 1:52 pm
In job 33:31 brentons edition, I will speak...evotizo Iob kai akoue mou; kopheusov kai eyo eimi lalaso...why is the present tense ego eimi hooked to the future tense?
Let's take this a bit at a time.ἐνωτίζου, ᾿Ιώβ, καὶ ἄκουέ μου· κώφευσον, καὶ ἐγώ εἰμι λαλήσω.
You are right in identifying a difference between the tenses here. The form λαλήσω could be either future or subjunctive, but there are 2 reasons for taking it as future; first, it is not in a complex sentence (subordinate clause) and second, there are a lot of other futures all around it in other verses.James Bell wrote:why is the present tense ego eimi hooked to the future tense
James Bell wrote:Thank you for clarifying to me that ego eimi is not part of Lego
There are a number of different words in Greek for speaking, one of them is λέγειν and another is λαλεῖν. You can read one scholar Trench's view of the difference between λέγειν and λαλεῖν in this pdf on page 287.RandallButh wrote:There is something funny about εἰμί. The Greek text would need a break between it and λαλήσω.
Getting more and more exposure to a language is a solid but slow way to learn. Many people who do that take a course after they have been exposed to a speech community for a few years, just to straighten out misunderstandings and to fill in gaps of things that they hadn't accidently come across. I have heard it said that there are 6 month kick you in at the deep-end approaches to learning Chinese, which are followed up by some classroom instruction. I expect that those who learn in that way would have a better feel for the language, but perhaps not be so cool with grammar after 1 year than someone who had spent a year in the classroom.James Bell wrote:I am satisfied with your answers and now will go back to reading and learning more.
I'm baffled by Jonathan's response. I don't see how "I am the one who will speak" derives from the Greek text, ἐγώ εἰμι λαλήσω. I can see two clauses -- ἐγώ εἰμι, "I am the one" (older English: "It is I") and λαλήσω, "I will speak" But there's no punctuation suggesting two separate clauses and there's certainly no relative pronoun linking λαλήσω to εγώ εἰμι. MT has וְאָנֹכִ֥י אֲדַבֵּֽר -- where I can see no equivalent of εἰμί. Perhaps I'm not understanding either the Hebrew or the Greek text. I can see the Greek as "It's ME! I'll do the talking!" -- but again, that's two distinct clauses. What am I missing?Jonathan Robie wrote:Let's take this a bit at a time.ἐνωτίζου, ᾿Ιώβ, καὶ ἄκουέ μου· κώφευσον, καὶ ἐγώ εἰμι λαλήσω.
ἐνωτίζου, ᾿Ιώβ - give ear, Job
καὶ ἄκουέ μου - and listen to me
κώφευσον - shut up
καὶ ἐγώ εἰμι λαλήσω - and I am the one who will speak
Does that make sense?