Rom 9:4 λατρεία vs 2 Co 3:7 διακονία: are both service?

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Rom 9:4 λατρεία vs 2 Co 3:7 διακονία: are both service?

Post by mgl2016 » August 23rd, 2016, 4:11 pm

Sorry for my blunder in this field. λατρεία seem to be translated as "worship" sometimes and as "service" sometimes. Which word is more proper? Next, if λατρεία means service how does it differ from διακονία?

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Re: Rom 9:4 λατρεία vs 2 Co 3:7 διακονία: are both service?

Post by Jonathan Robie » August 25th, 2016, 9:45 pm

In English, we have "church services" or "worship services". This is similar.
Abbott-Smith wrote:λατρεία, -ας, ἡ (< λατρεύω, q.v.), [in LXX (always of divine service): Ex 12:25-26 13:5, Jos 22:27, I Ch 28:13 (עֲבֹדָה), I Mac 1:43 Mac 2:19 Mac 2:22, III Mac 4:14 * ;]
1. hired service, service.
2. (in cl. also) divine service, worship: Jo 16:2, Ro 9:4 12:1, He 9:1, 6.†
Abbott-Smith claims it always refers to divine service in the Septuagint and New Testament. It's derived from the verb to serve:
Abbott-Smith wrote:λατρεύω (< λάτρις, a hired servant), [in LXX (always, as λατρεία, of the service of God or of heathen divinities) chiefly for עָבַד, Ex 3:12, al.; in Da LXX TH (Da 3:12, al.) for פְּלַח ;]
1. to work for hire.
2. to serve; in cl., also of divine service, to serve, worship, and so always in NT: c. dat. pers., τ. θεῷ, Mt 4:10, Lk 4:8 (LXX), Ac 7:7 24:14 27:23, He 9:14, Re 7:15 22:3; of idol worship (cf. Ex 20:5, Ez 20:32), Ac 7:42, Ro 1:25; τ. θεῷ. ἐν τ. πνεύματί μου, Ro 1:9; id. ἐν καθαρᾷ συνειδήσει, II Ti 1:3; μετ' εὐλαβείας κ. δέους, He 12:28; ἐν ὁσιότητι κ. δικαιοσύνῃ, Lk 1:74; (without θεῷ) νηστείαις κ. δεήσεσι, Lk 2:37; πνεύματι θεοῦ, Phl 3:3; absol., Ac 26:7; ὁ λατρεύων, the worshipper, He 9:9 10:2; of ministerial service, c. dat. rei, He 8:5 13:10.†
Here also, Abbott-Smith seems to indicate that it always refers to divine service. Incidentally, the English word idolatry is derived from λατρεία:
Abbott-Smith wrote:εἰδωλο-λατρία (-εία, Rec.), -ας, ἡ (< εἴδωλον, λατρεία),
idolatry: I Co 10:14, Ga 5:20, Col 3:5; pl. (Bl, §32, 6), I Pe 4:3 (Cremer, 390).†
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Re: Rom 9:4 λατρεία vs 2 Co 3:7 διακονία: are both service?

Post by Jonathan Robie » August 26th, 2016, 6:06 pm

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