I’d like to ask 2 questions on learning methods. (Beginner and longtine lurker).
Someone who posed a question based on two statements to a group.
1. I'll have to try that.
2. I'll have to give that a try.
The individual went on to ask the Group if there were any differences between 1 & 2 and if so why.
[My question is to understand how something similar can be said in Koine, *if possible) but also after I replied to him I put forth something a bit similar and I would appreciate if anyone could tell me if this may exist in Koine. It certainly does in modern. To paraphrase, he asked the group]:
“If you think there is a difference between the two sentences beyond the “obvious” difference described thus far which is easily observed.} please state why or why not. He asked the difference between saying: “I’ll have to try this.” and “I’ll have to give this a try.” \\
1. I assumed my first guess was what he said was obvious. I simply inserted a noun removing the word “that.” and stated:
2. I'll have to give scubadiving a try.
First thing that I saw was #2 does not work with the idioms. For example:
3. I'll have to give Scubadiving a try (still makes sense)
However, I'll have to try Scubadiving [whirl, go) makes no sense.
"Give it a go” is of course an idiom in itself and the likely meaning is that the person who says; “I’ll have to try that” is much more certain than the other person who “will have to try it” since the others use of the idiom seems an indication of how he feels. (could be wrong on that)
Does anything close to the above which exist in the Koine and is it related to the question I countered with below?
I wish I could remember a while back when Carl, or perhaps Markos brought up something similar, or perhaps George, Randal or Mike. Don’t remember.
I’ll make mine brief and leave some out, but I think all will get the gist.
I asked the gentlemen, if I could try something similar and he agreed.
I am trying to get your attention and can do that in a number of ways, (of course the tonals in the voice change based in the both the single and groups or words.
John. , John! , (not say a word but just by come close to John at his desk, look at John until you he looks back) hello or hi., What if you check into a hotel, no one is at the desk, you ring the bell, not in any rude way, but John comes out and says 1. Yes. 2. Yes? 3. What is it? 4. What do you want? 5. What now?? 6. What is it, now? 7. Now, what is it? 8. Yeah? 9. Yah! 9. Do you want something? 10. Uh huh ... Now what? 11. Yeah, what's up? 12. What's goin' on? 13. What (pause) do (pause) you (pause) want?
I am trying to find out if there is 1. a term for this when one is teaching a language? 2. Can this be incorporated into effective language teaching?
I might be able to think of a few modern, however, I don’t remember anything like this in Koine. In modern, yes, but I was wondering if anyone can assist with some passages, or even a recommended book. Thank you,
Τὶ θέλεις ἄπο μένος;
Τὶ μπορῶ νά σαὶ κὰνῶ;
Τὶ ἔχεις, τώpα;