What type of genitive is ὑμῶν in Romans 1:12?

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What type of genitive is ὑμῶν in Romans 1:12?

Postby GlennDean » June 7th, 2012, 10:26 pm

Hi:

In Romans 1:12, what type of genitive is ὑμῶν? Does it even have a head noun? Or is the head noun implicit (i.e. the head noun is πίστεως)?

I'm using Mounce's Basics of Biblical Greek and the types of genitives he lists are descriptive, possessive, apposition, separation, subjective, objective, plenary, relationship, and partitive).

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Re: What type of genitive is ὑμῶν in Romans 1:12?

Postby David Lim » June 8th, 2012, 5:30 am

GlennDean wrote:In Romans 1:12, what type of genitive is ὑμῶν? Does it even have a head noun? Or is the head noun implicit (i.e. the head noun is πίστεως)?

I'm using Mounce's Basics of Biblical Greek and the types of genitives he lists are descriptive, possessive, apposition, separation, subjective, objective, plenary, relationship, and partitive).


[Rom 1:12] τουτο δε εστιν συμπαρακληθηναι εν υμιν δια της εν αλληλοις πιστεως υμων τε και εμου

If the clause is broken down into its parts:
"( τουτο εστιν ) { συμπαρακληθηναι [με] ( εν { υμιν } ) ( δια { της ( εν αλληλοις ) πιστεως ( { υμων } τε και { εμου } ) } ) }"
"εν αλλψλοις" functions as an adjective specifying "της πιστεως"
"υμων τε και εμου" modifies "της εν αλληλοις πιστεως" and not "πιστεως" directly
"της εν αλληλοις πιστεως υμων τε και εμου" is the (genitive) object of the preposition "δια"
"δια της εν αλληλοις πιστεως υμων τε και εμου" modifies "συμπαρακληθηναι [με] εν υμιν" (acc.+inf. construction)
Is it also clear what kind of genitive it is now? (What can "της πιστεως υμων" which is also "της πιστεως εμου" mean?)
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Re: What type of genitive is ὑμῶν in Romans 1:12?

Postby GlennDean » June 8th, 2012, 9:41 am

David Lim wrote:Is it also clear what kind of genitive it is now? (What can "της πιστεως υμων" which is also "της πιστεως εμου" mean?)


Thanxs for the detailed explanation - I see it now - it is clearly a possessive genitive ("your faith"). What threw me was having the prepositional phrase ἐν ἀλλήλοις in between the article τῆς and the noun πίστεως
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