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Rev 2:28 antecedent

Posted: September 18th, 2013, 3:37 am
by Alan Patterson
2:28 αυτω, what is its antecedent?


26 και ο νικων και ο τηρων αχρι τελους τα εργα μου δωσω αυτω εξουσιαν επι των εθνων
27 και ποιμανει αυτους εν ραβδω σιδηρα ως τα σκευη τα κεραμικα συντριβεται
28 ως καγω ειληφα [-θα?] παρα του πατρος μου, και δωσω αυτω τον αστερα τον πρωινον
29 ο εχων ους ακουσατω τι το πνευμα λεγει ταις εκκλησιαις
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I am wondering what options exist for the antecedent of αυτω in verse 28.
Would the possibilities include πατρος of vs 28 or και ο νικων και ο τηρων of vs 26?

Re: Rev 2:28 antecedent

Posted: September 18th, 2013, 10:44 am
by Jonathan Robie
I think the antecedent is ὁ νικῶν καὶ ὁ τηρῶν ἄχρι τέλους τὰ ἔργα μου. Let me indent this text ...

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καὶ ὁ νικῶν καὶ ὁ τηρῶν ἄχρι τέλους τὰ ἔργα μου, 
    **δώσω αὐτῷ** ἐξουσίαν ἐπὶ τῶν ἐθνῶν, 
    **καὶ ποιμανεῖ** αὐτοὺς ἐν ῥάβδῳ σιδηρᾷ ὡς τὰ σκεύη τὰ κεραμικὰ συντρίβεται, 
           ὡς κἀγὼ εἴληφα παρὰ τοῦ πατρός μου, 
    **καὶ δώσω αὐτῷ** τὸν ἀστέρα τὸν πρωϊνόν.

Re: Rev 2:28 antecedent

Posted: September 19th, 2013, 7:29 am
by Barry Hofstetter
Alan Patterson wrote:2:28 αυτω, what is its antecedent?


26 και ο νικων και ο τηρων αχρι τελους τα εργα μου δωσω αυτω εξουσιαν επι των εθνων
27 και ποιμανει αυτους εν ραβδω σιδηρα ως τα σκευη τα κεραμικα συντριβεται
28 ως καγω ειληφα [-θα?] παρα του πατρος μου, και δωσω αυτω τον αστερα τον πρωινον
29 ο εχων ους ακουσατω τι το πνευμα λεγει ταις εκκλησιαις
[WH text]

I am wondering what options exist for the antecedent of αυτω in verse 28.
Would the possibilities include πατρος of vs 28 or και ο νικων και ο τηρων of vs 26?
In addition to Jonathan's helpful indenting, one has to ask the question "what would it mean if πατρός were the antecedent?" Why would the Son give to the Father authority over the nations? It would also be syntactically unusual (but not impossible) to have a proleptic pronoun so far removed from its antecedent.

Re: Rev 2:28 antecedent

Posted: September 19th, 2013, 8:35 am
by Stephen Carlson
Barry Hofstetter wrote:In addition to Jonathan's helpful indenting, one has to ask the question "what would it mean if πατρός were the antecedent?" Why would the Son give to the Father authority over the nations? It would also be syntactically unusual (but not impossible) to have a proleptic pronoun so far removed from its antecedent.
Since he's talking about v.28, I think taking πατρός as the antecedent of αὐτῷ in that verse would mean that the Son will give the Father the morning star.