Future Perfect forms in LXX?

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Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby RDecker » March 23rd, 2012, 9:32 am

Does anyone know of any FuturePerfect forms in the LXX other than Jer 38:34; Lev 13:45; Hos 12:1; Joel 4:16?

The LXX database used by Accordance doesn't use a FuturePerfect tag (these are all tagged as futures).

Lev 13:45, Καὶ ὁ λεπρός, ἐν ᾧ ἐστιν ἡ ἁφή, τὰ ἱμάτια αὐτοῦ ἔστω παραλελυμένα καὶ ἡ κεφαλὴ αὐτοῦ ἀκατακάλυπτος, καὶ περὶ τὸ στόμα αὐτοῦ περιβαλέσθω καὶ ἀκάθαρτος κεκλήσεται·

Jer 38:34, καὶ οὐ μὴ διδάξωσιν ἕκαστος τὸν πολίτην αὐτοῦ καὶ ἕκαστος τὸν ἀδελφὸν αὐτοῦ λέγων Γνῶθι τὸν κύριον· ὅτι πάντες εἰδήσουσίν με ἀπὸ μικροῦ αὐτῶν καὶ ἕως μεγάλου αὐτῶν, ὅτι ἵλεως ἔσομαι ταῖς ἀδικίαις αὐτῶν καὶ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν αὐτῶν οὐ μὴ μνησθῶ ἔτι.
(= Heb 8:11, where Accordance *does* tag it as "futPerf.")

Hos 12:1, Ἐκύκλωσέν με ἐν ψεύδει Εφραιμ καὶ ἐν ἀσεβείαις οἶκος Ισραηλ καὶ Ιουδα. νῦν ἔγνω αὐτοὺς ὁ θεός, καὶ λαὸς ἅγιος κεκλήσεται θεοῦ.

Joel 4:16 ὁ δὲ κύριος ἐκ Σιων ἀνακεκράξεται καὶ ἐξ Ιερουσαλημ δώσει φωνὴν αὐτοῦ, καὶ σεισθήσεται ὁ οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ γῆ· ὁ δὲ κύριος φείσεται τοῦ λαοῦ αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐνισχύσει κύριος τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ.
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby cwconrad » March 23rd, 2012, 10:01 am

I haven't done a search to look for them. BUT -- this calls attention to the problem with tagged texts. It's fallible human beings that do the tagging, and future perfects in ancient Greek are almost exclusively periphrastic; one might find them better by searching for perfect participles in proximity to forms of εἶναι. I seem to recall that there are only three inflected future perfects in classical Attic literature: ἑστήξω (ἱστάναι), κεκλήσομαι (καλεῖν) and one more, perhaps ἑστήξεται. But these inflected future perfects are rare enough in classical Attic; they are likely to be non-existent in later Greek unless in Atticizing literature of the later 1st and 2nd centuries.
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby RDecker » March 23rd, 2012, 10:13 am

Very true. And it's not to hard to search for the periphrastic form. I was trying to identify all the (very rare) finite forms that are future perfect by morphology. I think the 4 I listed are valid examples of such, but they are the only ones I know of (other than the one NT quote of one of the LXX forms).
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby Mark House » March 23rd, 2012, 10:36 am

Here are the search results from Logos. It doesn't have forms of οιδα, which it parses as futures:

Job 19:7
ἰδοὺ γελῶ ὀνείδει καὶ οὐ λαλήσω, κεκράξομαι, καὶ οὐδαμοῦ κρίμα.
LXX-R Psalm 21:3
ὁ θεός μου, κεκράξομαι ἡμέρας, καὶ οὐκ εἰσακούσῃ, καὶ νυκτός, καὶ οὐκ εἰς ἄνοιαν ἐμοί.
LXX-R Psalm 29:9
πρὸς σέ, κύριε, κεκράξομαι καὶ πρὸς τὸν θεόν μου δεηθήσομαι
LXX-R Psalm 56:3
κεκράξομαι πρὸς τὸν θεὸν τὸν ὕψιστον, τὸν θεὸν τὸν εὐεργετήσαντά με.
LXX-R Psalm 85:3
ἐλέησόν με, κύριε, ὅτι πρὸς σὲ κεκράξομαι ὅλην τὴν ἡμέραν.
Isaiah 42:2
οὐ κεκράξεται οὐδὲ ἀνήσει, οὐδὲ ἀκουσθήσεται ἔξω ἡ φωνὴ αὐτοῦ.
Lamentations 3:8
καί γε κεκράξομαι καὶ βοήσω, ἀπέφραξεν προσευχήν μου,
LXX-R Hosea 12:1
Ἐκύκλωσέν με ἐν ψεύδει Εφραιμ καὶ ἐν ἀσεβείαις οἶκος Ισραηλ καὶ Ιουδα. νῦν ἔγνω αὐτοὺς ὁ θεός, καὶ λαὸς ἅγιος κεκλήσεται θεοῦ.
LXX-R Joel 4:16
ὁ δὲ κύριος ἐκ Σιων ἀνακεκράξεται καὶ ἐξ Ιερουσαλημ δώσει φωνὴν αὐτοῦ, καὶ σεισθήσεται ὁ οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ γῆ, ὁ δὲ κύριος φείσεται τοῦ λαοῦ αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἐνισχύσει κύριος τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ.
Baruch 4:20
ἐξεδυσάμην τὴν στολὴν τῆς εἰρήνης, ἐνεδυσάμην δὲ σάκκον τῆς δεήσεώς μου, κεκράξομαι πρὸς τὸν αἰώνιον ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις μου. —
Psalms of Solomon 5:8
ἐὰν γὰρ πεινάσω, πρὸς σὲ κεκράξομαι, ὁ θεός, καὶ σὺ δώσεις μοι.
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby RDecker » March 23rd, 2012, 10:51 am

Thanks Mark. That's helpful. Interesting that almost all of these are a single form, κεκραξομαι. I'd guess, though I haven't tried to verify this, that it's a "frozen" form.

Your Logos list also illustrates Carl's point regarding the limitations of tagged texts since not only is the form of οἰδα missing but also κεκλήσεται in Lev 13:45.
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby Mark House » March 23rd, 2012, 11:03 am

Right, Logos parses κεκλήσεται in Lev 13:45 as a future passive, although they have it right in Hosea 12:1. I've reported the mistake.
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby Ken M. Penner » March 23rd, 2012, 10:13 pm

These reduplicated forms of κράζω are not future perfects; they are simply futures. According to LSJ:
fut. κεκράξομαι Eup.1, Ar.Eq.285, 487, Ra.258, Men.Sam.204, κεκραγήσομαι Hsch. s.v. κεκραγήσει later κράξω AP11.141 (Lucill.), Ev.Luc.19.40
and BDAG:
fut. κράξω and κεκράξομαι (B-D-F §77; W-S. §13, 2; Mlt. 154; Rob. 361)
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby Ken M. Penner » March 23rd, 2012, 10:21 pm

Mark House wrote:Right, Logos parses κεκλήσεται in Lev 13:45 as a future passive, although they have it right in Hosea 12:1. I've reported the mistake.

But which is the "mistake"? Just because it's reduplicated doesn't mean it's perfect, especially with kappa.
LSJ says
Pass., fut. κεκλήσομαι Il.3.138, A.Th.698 (lyr.), Pr.840, etc.

BDAG says
2 fut. 3 sg. κεκλήσεται Lev 13:45; Hos 12:1
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby RDecker » March 23rd, 2012, 10:35 pm

Hmmm. Most interesting. I'll have to do some work on that tomorrow. Thanks for the note.
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Re: Future Perfect forms in LXX?

Postby Ken M. Penner » March 23rd, 2012, 10:42 pm

RDecker wrote:Does anyone know of any FuturePerfect forms in the LXX other than Jer 38:34; Lev 13:45; Hos 12:1; Joel 4:16?

The LXX database used by Accordance doesn't use a FuturePerfect tag (these are all tagged as futures).

Accordance is right.
In Conybeare & Stock's listing of future perfects in the LXX, all are periphrastic.
Conybeare & Stock, 56 wrote:FUTURE PERFECT
Gen. 43:9, 44:32 ἡμαρτηκὼς ἔσομαι.
2 K. [2 Sam.] 22:3: Is. 12:2, 8:17 πεποιθὼς ἔσομαι (fut. simp. in force).
Sir. 7:25 ἔσῃ τετελεκώς.
Is. 58:14 ἔσῃ πεποιθώς.
Is. 17:7, 22:24 πεποιθὼς ἔσται.
Ex. 12:6 ἔσται ὑμῖν διατετηρημένον.
Is. 32:3 ἔσονται πεποιθότες.
Gen. 41:36 ἔσται . . . πεφυλαγμένα.

Thackeray had a few more things to say about future perfects:
Καλέω fut. καλέσω, §20,1 (iii); fut. perf. pass. κεκλήσομαι only as a variant for κληθήσομαι in Ex. xii. 16 A, Hos. xi. 12 BQ,
Cf. §15,3 aug. in ἐπαρεκάλουν, ἐπροσκέκληται, §16,8: Vb. ad].
κλητέον § 15,2.

Κράζω ... fut. κεκράζομαι as in Att. (with v.l. κράξομαι: not κράξω of N.T.), §20,3, cf. 15,3
but on p. 194, calls this a future perfect.
Thackeray says θνήσκω appears in the future perfect 3 times in 4 Macc.
Robertson, p. 361 wrote:The future perfect was always a very rare tense with only two active forms of any frequency, ἑστήξω and τεθνήξω. The middle and passive could make a better showing. In Heb. 8:11 εἰδήσουσιν is probably future active (from LXX), and in Lu. 19:40 some MSS., but not אBL (rejected by W. H.), give κεκράξονται (cf. LXX).

Goodwin, 2.13 wrote:When the perfect is used in the sense of a present (49), the future perfect is its regular future; as κεκλήσομαι, μεμνήσομαι, ἀφεστήξω, I shall be named, I shall remember, I shall withdraw, etc.
In many other verbs, the future perfect differs very slightly, if at all, from an ordinary future. Thus πεπράσομαι is the regular future passive of πιπράσκω. Still, where there is another future, the future perfect is generally more emphatic.
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