Proverbs 23:31 ὁμιλεῖτε ἐν περιπάτοις

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Proverbs 23:31 ὁμιλεῖτε ἐν περιπάτοις

Post by Jonathan Robie » January 28th, 2016, 10:39 am

Proverbs 23:31 wrote: μὴ μεθύσκεσθε ἐν οἴνοις, ἀλλὰ ὁμιλεῖτε ἀνθρώποις δικαίοις καὶ ὁμιλεῖτε ἐν περιπάτοις· ἐὰν γὰρ εἰς τὰς φιάλας καὶ τὰ ποτήρια δῷς τοὺς ὀφθαλμούς σου, ὕστερον περιπατήσεις γυμνότερος ὑπέρου.
The phrase ὁμιλεῖτε ἐν περιπάτοις threw me for a loop. NETS renders this "converse in public places"
NETS wrote:Do not get drunk from wine;
rather converse with righteous people,
and converse in public places;
for if you give your eyes to saucers and
goblets,
you will afterwards walk around more
naked than a pestle
Can anyone shed light on this usage?
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Re: Proverbs 23:31 ὁμιλεῖτε ἐν περιπάτοις

Post by Ken M. Penner » January 28th, 2016, 10:49 am

I take it you're asking about περιπάτοις not ὁμιλεῖτε.
NETS is taking it as a place περθπατεῖν for walking (Ez 42:4; Job 41:24).
"Topics of discussion" as in 2 Macc 2:30 might fit the context better here.
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Re: Proverbs 23:31 ὁμιλεῖτε ἐν περιπάτοις

Post by S Walch » January 28th, 2016, 12:39 pm

Usually I'd check the Hebrew to see if it could shed some light on the Greek translators choice - but this is LXX Proverbs, which doesn't follow the Hebrew Proverbs.

Looking at the uses of περιπατος in the LXX however, it renders the Hebrew דרך/derek the most (x3) meaning "way/walkway/passageway"; followed by one instance of מהלך/mahalak meaning "walk/journey" and לשכה/lishkah meaning "room/chamber/hall".

Presuming LXX Proverbs did actually have a Hebrew Vorlege that it was translated from, I personally think that probably "chamber" or "hall way" would be the meaning: "but converse with righteous people and converse in public chambers".

(Just a quick correction, Prof. Penner: It's Job 41:23, not 41:24 :) The Lexham Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint also gives the wrong reference; the Lexham Analytical Lexicon gives the correct one.)
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Re: Proverbs 23:31 ὁμιλεῖτε ἐν περιπάτοις

Post by Ken M. Penner » January 28th, 2016, 1:24 pm

Rahlfs and Swete number the verses differently.
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