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ἀποστασία

Post by sethknorr » April 11th, 2018, 1:28 am

I need some help. In the Greek Lexicon Liddell-Scott one of the definitions for ἀποστασία 2. departure, disappearance, Olymp. in Mete.320.2.

I am trying to look at the actual text so I can see the context, but I can't figure out what work "Olymp. in Mete.320.2" is, or what the abbreviations mean?

Does anyone know? And does anyone know if the Greek text is available online?

Thanks!
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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by Stirling Bartholomew » April 11th, 2018, 1:30 pm

sethknorr wrote:
April 11th, 2018, 1:28 am
I need some help. In the Greek Lexicon Liddell-Scott one of the definitions for ἀποστασία 2. departure, disappearance, Olymp. in Mete.320.2.

I am trying to look at the actual text so I can see the context, but I can't figure out what work "Olymp. in Mete.320.2" is, or what the abbreviations mean?

Does anyone know? And does anyone know if the Greek text is available online?

Thanks!

The author Olympiodorus of Alexandria[1] uses the word elsewhere.
Olympiodorus: Aristotelis meteora commentaria

<Περὶ μὲν οὖν πηκτοῦ καὶ ἀπήκτου καὶ τηκτοῦ καὶ
ἀτήκτου εἴρηται μὲν καθόλου πρότερον.>
319.25
Τὸ περὶ πηκτοῦ καὶ τηκτοῦ πάλιν ὁ φιλόσοφος ἐπανακεφαλαιοῦται,
οὐχ ὥς τινες ᾠήθησαν βουλόμενος ἐπιτομὴν ποιήσασθαι τῶν ἀνωτέρω περὶ
αὐτῶν ἐργωδῶς εἰρημένων· ἀλλὰ τοῦτο ποιεῖ χάριν τοῦ ἐπανορθώσασθαι
τὸ παχυμερῶς εἰρημένον ἐν τοῖς προλαβοῦσι, ταὐτὸν δ' εἰπεῖν ὅτι ἔλεγε
τοὺς ἅλας καὶ τὸ νίτρον θερμῷ πήγνυσθαι καὶ ψυχρῷ λύεσθαι. ἔστι δὲ
319.30
ἡ ἐπανακεφαλαίωσις τοιαύτη· τῶν πηγνυμένων τὰ μὲν ὕδατός ἐστι, τὰ δὲ
γῆς. καὶ ὅσα μὲν ὕδατός ἐστιν, ἐκεῖνα ψυχρῷ πήγνυται, ἀπουσίᾳ δ' ὑγρῶν
320.1
πήγνυται, τουτέστι ξηρῷ. ἀλλ' ἵνα τὸ μὴ ποιεῖν ὑλικῇ αἰτίᾳ ἀπονέμῃ ὁ
320.2
Ἀριστοτέλης, τουτέστι τὴν πῆξιν, τῇ ξηρότητι τὴν αἰτίαν τῆς ἀποστασίας
τοῦ ὑγροῦ παρατίθεται καὶ ταύτῃ δίδωσι τὴν πῆξιν, τουτέστι τὴν θερ-
μότητα. ἡ γὰρ θερμότης ἐξικμάζουσα τὴν ὑγρότητα ποιεῖ τῇ ἀπουσίᾳ τοῦ
320.5
ὑγροῦ ξηρότητα, ἥτις πήγνυσι τοὺς ἅλας καὶ τὸ νίτρον, ὡς εἶναι τὰ δύο
πηγνύντα ταῦτα αἴτια θερμότητα καὶ ξηρότητα. ἀλλὰ πόρρω μὲν αἴτιον ἡ
θερμότης, προσεχὴς δ' ἡ ξηρότης. εἶτα ἐπειδὴ περὶ πηκτοῦ καὶ τηκτοῦ
καὶ ἀτήκτου ἀρκούντως διειλέχθη, λείπεται δ' ἔτι τὸ ἄπηκτον τῷ λόγῳ,
περὶ τούτου διαλέγεται καὶ παραδίδωσι τὰ τούτου ποιητικὰ αἴτια.
[1]Olympiodorus of Alexandria
https://www.studylight.org/encyclopedia ... ndria.html
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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by MAubrey » April 11th, 2018, 1:57 pm

Stirling has got you covered, but for additional reference, this is from the LSJ abbreviations section:
Olympiodorus Philosophus [Olymp.] vi A.D.
in Alc. = in Platonis Alcibiadem commentarii, ed. F. Creuzer, Frankfurt 1820–25.
in Cat. = in Categorias commentarium, ed. A. Busse (Comm.in Arist.Graeca xii pars i), Berlin 1902.
in Grg. = in Platonis Gorgiam commentaria, ed. A. Jahn, in Neue Jahrbücher für Philologie, Suppl. xiv (1848) p. 104, L. G. Westerink, T(L) 1970 (cited by page number).
in Mete. = in Aristotelis Meteora commentaria, ed. W. Stüve (Comm.in Arist.Graeca xii pars ii), Berlin 1900.
in Phd. = in Platonis Phaedonem commentaria, ed. W. Norvin, Leipzig (T.) 1913.
in Phlb. = in Platonis Philebum scholia, ed. G. Stallbaum, in editione Philebi, Leipzig 1820.
Proll. = Prolegomena, ed. A. Busse (Comm.in Arist.Graeca xii pars i), Berlin 1902.
Vit.Pl. = Vita Platonis; v. Diogenes Laertius.
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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by Stirling Bartholomew » April 11th, 2018, 2:32 pm

I found almost all of these online. Just search on the following strings:

Aristotelis meteora commentaria
ὑπολείψεις οὖν νῦν ἀκουστέον τὰς ἀποστάςεις τῶν ἀστέρων
ἀκουστέον τὰς ἀποστάςεις, καθ' ἃς φαίνεται.
τελείαν αὐτῶν ἀπόσταςιν ἀπέχοντα τοῦ ἡλίου μὴ φαίνεσθαι
οὐ λύει ἀποστάς. οὐκοῦν ἐπιλυτέον. τῆς χιόνος
ἀποστὰς δὲ τοῦ κατὰ κορυφὴν βραχύ τι,
ἰσθανόμεθα αὐτῶν διὰ πολλὴν ἀπόσταςιν,

In Platonis Phaedonem commentaria
ήγαγεν ἐνδεικνύμενος τὴν ἀπόσταςιν τὴν ἀπὸ τοῦ ἑνός

Commentarii in Job

ἐλεεῖν τὸν ἴσον τῷ διαβόλῳ γεγονότα ἄνθρωπον τῇ ἀποστασίᾳ

Commentarii in Jeremiam

τὸ εἰς οὐδὲν ἀποκαταστῆναι τὴν γῆν διὰ τὴν ἀποσταςίαν
τῇ παντελεῖ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἀποσταςίᾳ
ἀποσταςίας γινομένης, οὐκ ἐπιγινώσκουσιν
σχέσιν καὶ ἀπόσταςιν, καὶ τὰς κατὰ καιρὸν αὐτῶν
Αἱ ἀποστᾶςαι τῶν ἐθνικῶν ψυχαί.
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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by Devenios Doulenios » April 12th, 2018, 9:35 am

And as much as I love Latin, it still bugs me to see Greek works listed with no Greek titles!
Anybody else feel that way? (Yes, I understand the historical reasons why they are done that way, but that doesn't make it valid.)
:?

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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by sethknorr » April 12th, 2018, 10:18 pm

Thank you all so much. Extremely helpful!
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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by Barry Hofstetter » April 13th, 2018, 5:26 am

Devenios Doulenios wrote:
April 12th, 2018, 9:35 am
And as much as I love Latin, it still bugs me to see Greek works listed with no Greek titles!
Anybody else feel that way? (Yes, I understand the historical reasons why they are done that way, but that doesn't make it valid.)
:?

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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by Devenios Doulenios » April 13th, 2018, 9:13 am

Intelligo. De gustibus non est disputandum.
Συνειμι. ἀνὴρ τὸ εὐθὲς ἐν ὀφθαλμοῖς αὐτοῦ ποίει. ;)

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Re: ἀποστασία

Post by Stephen Carlson » April 13th, 2018, 11:04 pm

Devenios Doulenios wrote:
April 12th, 2018, 9:35 am
And as much as I love Latin, it still bugs me to see Greek works listed with no Greek titles!
Anybody else feel that way?
Not me.
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