List of Articular Infinitives

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George F Somsel wrote:In the NT I find 204 verses with the positive articular infinitive and 31 with the negative (τὸ μὴ). It would be a bit bulky to post so I would suggest that you learn to use Bibleworks so you can run the search yourself.
The problem is constituents intervening between the article and the infinitive. There seem to be about a hundred more examples than the simple search can find. Either an over-inclusive search with a manual filter or a syntax-sensitive search is in order. I'd just like to know if this wheel had been invented before diving in.
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Stephen Carlson wrote: The problem is constituents intervening between the article and the infinitive. There seem to be about a hundred more examples than the simple search can find. Either an over-inclusive search with a manual filter or a syntax-sensitive search is in order. I'd just like to know if this wheel had been invented before diving in.
Any syntax database should be able to handle that without a problem. Let me see what I can pull up
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Also: give Burk's book a miss. It's pretty useless.
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MAubrey wrote:Also: give Burk's book a miss. It's pretty useless.
It would be useful as long as it lists the occurrences. I'm interested in a different question than he was, so I don't expect him to be directly useful on a question he didn't ask.
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Stephen Carlson wrote:
MAubrey wrote:Also: give Burk's book a miss. It's pretty useless.
It would be useful as long as it lists the occurrences. I'm interested in a different question than he was, so I don't expect him to be directly useful on a question he didn't ask.
If the only value of a book is its statistics, then there has to be a better way.

Anyway, his ETS paper on the same topic last year claims 324 tokens. So far in Cascadia (the same data as Jonathan & Micheal) I've found 283. Still looking around...
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One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
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Barry Hofstetter wrote:One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels. :D
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ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)

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cwconrad wrote:
Barry Hofstetter wrote:One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels. :D
It would be of great benefit if the one student could be both.
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Stephen Hughes wrote:
cwconrad wrote:
Barry Hofstetter wrote:One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels. :D
It would be of great benefit if the one student could be both.
Yes, but do they speak the same language?
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)

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cwconrad wrote:
Stephen Hughes wrote:
cwconrad wrote: Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels. :D
It would be of great benefit if the one student could be both.
Yes, but do they speak the same language?
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