The problem is constituents intervening between the article and the infinitive. There seem to be about a hundred more examples than the simple search can find. Either an over-inclusive search with a manual filter or a syntax-sensitive search is in order. I'd just like to know if this wheel had been invented before diving in.George F Somsel wrote:In the NT I find 204 verses with the positive articular infinitive and 31 with the negative (τὸ μὴ). It would be a bit bulky to post so I would suggest that you learn to use Bibleworks so you can run the search yourself.
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Any syntax database should be able to handle that without a problem. Let me see what I can pull upStephen Carlson wrote: The problem is constituents intervening between the article and the infinitive. There seem to be about a hundred more examples than the simple search can find. Either an over-inclusive search with a manual filter or a syntax-sensitive search is in order. I'd just like to know if this wheel had been invented before diving in.
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Also: give Burk's book a miss. It's pretty useless.
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It would be useful as long as it lists the occurrences. I'm interested in a different question than he was, so I don't expect him to be directly useful on a question he didn't ask.MAubrey wrote:Also: give Burk's book a miss. It's pretty useless.
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If the only value of a book is its statistics, then there has to be a better way.Stephen Carlson wrote:It would be useful as long as it lists the occurrences. I'm interested in a different question than he was, so I don't expect him to be directly useful on a question he didn't ask.MAubrey wrote:Also: give Burk's book a miss. It's pretty useless.
Anyway, his ETS paper on the same topic last year claims 324 tokens. So far in Cascadia (the same data as Jonathan & Micheal) I've found 283. Still looking around...
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One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
N.E. Barry Hofstetter, M.A., Th.M.
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καὶ σὺ τὸ σὸν ποιήσεις κἀγὼ τὸ ἐμόν. ἆρον τὸ σὸν καὶ ὕπαγε.
Ph.D. Student U of FL
Instructor of Latin
Jack M. Barrack Hebrew Academy
καὶ σὺ τὸ σὸν ποιήσεις κἀγὼ τὸ ἐμόν. ἆρον τὸ σὸν καὶ ὕπαγε.
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Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels.Barry Hofstetter wrote:One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
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ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
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It would be of great benefit if the one student could be both.cwconrad wrote:Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels.Barry Hofstetter wrote:One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
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Yes, but do they speak the same language?Stephen Hughes wrote:It would be of great benefit if the one student could be both.cwconrad wrote:Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels.Barry Hofstetter wrote:One could also do it the old-fashioned way – – by reading through the Greek New Testament, and noting every instance of the articular infinitive. I admit it might take a little longer, but think of the benefits resulting...
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
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Two eyes give a 3-D perspective.cwconrad wrote:Yes, but do they speak the same language?Stephen Hughes wrote:It would be of great benefit if the one student could be both.cwconrad wrote: Jawohl, Barry. There's the difference between philologist and linguist: one "loves" the language; the other measures and slices and dices it into bite-size morsels.
Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)