In Modern Greek it seems to me it's more or less an all-purposes relative pronoun; it seems to me that even in the GNT it often has overtones of "all that" or "whatever" (+ verb -- with or without ἄν + subj.).Stephen Hughes wrote:ὁσος is one of those words where just learning an Engish definition is not enough. It fulfills a role in the sentence and needs to understood as part of the whole sentence. It is used in certain syntactical patterns rather than simply having a meaning of its own. Together with other words, it sets up the structure of what is being said.
Definition of ὁσος and where is it in the bible?
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Re: Definition of ὁσος and where is it in the bible?
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
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Re: Definition of ὁσος and where is it in the bible?
ὁποῖος is probably what you are thinking of. It was used in the katharevousa with the article as the relative. The standard Modern Greek is που.In Modern Greek it seems to me it's more or less an all-purposes relative pronoun;
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Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
Re: Definition of ὁσος and where is it in the bible?
I stand corrected; that's where I usually stand.Stephen Hughes wrote:ὀποῖος is probably what you are thinking of. It was used the katharevousa with the article as relative. The standard Modern Greek is που.In Modern Greek it seems to me it's more or less an all-purposes relative pronoun;
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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Re: Definition of ὁσος and where is it in the bible?
没事。It's not a big deal.cwconrad wrote:I stand corrected; that's where I usually stand.Stephen Hughes wrote:ὀποῖος is probably what you are thinking of. It was used the katharevousa with the article as relative. The standard Modern Greek is που.In Modern Greek it seems to me it's more or less an all-purposes relative pronoun;
Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
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Re: Definition of ὁσος and where is it in the bible?
Thanks Stephen, I suspected as much. For some words that seem a bit abstract/vague I am trying to start find sentences I can read that demonstrate usage of the word. (Something I wish the textbooks would do). At the moment finding sentences in the New Testament that demonstrate a word that I can fully understand are quite few, but it _seems_ possible most of the time.Stephen Hughes wrote:ὁσος is one of those words where just learning an Engish definition is not enough. It fulfills a role in the sentence and needs to understood as part of the whole sentence. It is used in certain syntactical patterns rather than simply having a meaning of its own. Together with other words, it sets up the structure of what is being said.