You keep using the word "simply," but it does not mean what you think it means. See how well it matches Helma Dik's analysis of Greek word order.Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑September 17th, 2018, 11:11 am τὸ περὶ οὗ, simply the subject, ὃ τοῦτό ἐστιν, the predicate, and then "the rest in order."
The "word order" discussion is also taking place in Classical Studies, under the lead of Helma Dik and others. Unlike Stan Porter's verbal aspect, we're not talking about some quirky grammatical theory by parochial New Testament scholars.Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑September 17th, 2018, 11:11 amI would have to say that there is nothing here that suggests that "word order" as it has become a discussion in discourse analysis in biblical studies is in view.
Like this hasn't been going on for the past twenty years, especially in Classics???Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑September 17th, 2018, 11:11 amThe only way we really have to determine what the ancients thought of as euphonous is to read what they wrote and attempt to analyze it. Randall, you could well be right, but it would take some doing to prove it.
The way I see it, a large part of the effort about word order in biblical studies to get the field to discuss what the classicists are already talking about. Randy is a pioneer in this, hitting the same notes even before Dik. I view the general convergence of their independent lines of research a good sign that there's something to it.