εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
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εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
Is the component -γενής in the word εὐγενής related to the Greek verb γίνομαι?
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Re: εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
Yes, they are different ablaut (e-grade and zero-grade [in the reduplicated γι-γν-ο-μαι]) reflexes of the Proto-Indo-European root *gen-, to produce, beget, be born.Mike Baber wrote:Is the component -γενής in the word εὐγενής related to the Greek verb γίνομαι?
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Re: εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
This would be a good place to ask what are the best Greek etymological Dictionaries.
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Re: εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
We had a discussion about that topic here: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/vie ... f=30&t=867&
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Re: εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
I'm trying to understand the relationship between γένος and the suffix —γενής --- meaning, how —γενής is formed from γένος (I assume it is, so correct me if I am wrong).
es stem
γένος no contraction
γένεος → γένους
γένεϊ → γένει (synaeresis)
γένεα → γένη
γενέων → γενῶν
γένεσσι no contraction
Can someone tell me what's occurring in that table? Is the side to the right of the arrow basically referring to inflections of —γενής?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crasis
Also, are γεννάω and γίνομαι also related?
es stem
γένος no contraction
γένεος → γένους
γένεϊ → γένει (synaeresis)
γένεα → γένη
γενέων → γενῶν
γένεσσι no contraction
Can someone tell me what's occurring in that table? Is the side to the right of the arrow basically referring to inflections of —γενής?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crasis
Also, are γεννάω and γίνομαι also related?
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Re: εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
γενής is not formed from γένος directly, but they are both formed from the same root in their ancestral language with different nominal suffixes.Mike Baber wrote:I'm trying to understand the relationship between γένος and the suffix —γενής --- meaning, how —γενής is formed from γένος (I assume it is, so correct me if I am wrong).
No, the right side of the arrow refers to Attic/Koine forms of the word γένος. -γενής has nothing to do with this chart.Mike Baber wrote:es stem
γένος no contraction
γένεος → γένους
γένεϊ → γένει (synaeresis)
γένεα → γένη
γενέων → γενῶν
γένεσσι no contraction
Can someone tell me what's occurring in that table? Is the side to the right of the arrow basically referring to inflections of —γενής?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crasis
Yes, in the ancestral language: they are also different reflexes of the same Indo-European root.Mike Baber wrote:Also, are γεννάω and γίνομαι also related?
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Re: εὐγενής and its relation to γίνομαι
As Stephen has said, the table is about "γενος" and some of its declensions. From what I know, it is a third declension noun with its stem ending in "ος" for the nominative and accusative singular and "ες" for the rest. This results in loss of inter-vocalic sigma or contraction of a double sigma, and the vowels contract normally:Mike Baber wrote:γένος no contraction
γένεος → γένους
γένεϊ → γένει (synaeresis)
γένεα → γένη
γενέων → γενῶν
γένεσσι no contraction
Can someone tell me what's occurring in that table?
NSN: γενοσ → γενος
ASN: γενοσ → γενος
DSN: γενεσ + ι → γενει → γενει ( ε + ι → ει (spurious) )
GSN: γενεσ + ος → γενεος → γενους ( ε + ο → ου (spurious) )
NPN: γενεσ + α → γενεα → γενη ( ε + α → η )
APN: γενεσ + α → γενεα → γενη ( ε + α → η )
DPN: γενεσ + σιν → γενεσιν
GPN: γενεσ + ων → γενεων → γενων ( ε + ω → ω )
See http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/project/f ... on-14.html for more!
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