Origen Greek word for "everlasting"

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LeviJones
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Origen Greek word for "everlasting"

Post by LeviJones » June 1st, 2018, 6:27 pm

I've been searching for, but can't find, the Greek text of the following English translation of Origen [from "On First Principles" ii 10 iii]:

"There is a resurrection of the dead, and there is punishment, but not everlasting. For when the body is punished the soul is gradually purified, and so is restored to its ancient rank** For all wicked men, and for demons, too, punishment has an end, and both wicked men and demons shall be restored to their former rank 80"

"80 Origen First Principles, p.146. The fragment from which this passage is taken is incomplete (indicated by **). Rufinus omits it (Butterworth, in Origen, First Principles, p.146, n.1)."

Quoted from "Hell's Destruction: An Exploration of Christ’s Descent to the Dead"
By Catherine Ella Laufer [p.25 ff] @

https://books.google.ca/books?id=0t8FDA ... ng&f=false

"The clearest expression of Origen’s universalism is not found in the Latin translation of On First Principles by Rufinus, but in the original Greek text which we only have fragments of. It is preserved by Leontius of Byzantium in his Concerning the Sects 10.6 and in emperor Justinian’s condemnation of Origen in his Epistle to Menas:"

" “There is a resurrection of the dead, and there is punishment, but not everlasting. For when the body is punished the soul is gradually purified, and so is restored to its ancient rank. For all wicked men, and for demons, too, punishment has an end, and both wicked men and demons shall be restored to their former rank” (Greek text of On First Principles 2.10.8)." "

I'm especially wondering what the Greek word for "everlasting" is. I'd guess AIDIOS. Does anyone here know for sure? Or know of, or have, a resource where the Greek text can be found?
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Re: Origen Greek word for "everlasting"

Post by EricSowell » June 2nd, 2018, 11:58 am

Not sure how easy it will be to find the spot, but here's Migne's text. http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/0 ... s,_MGR.pdf
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Re: Origen Greek word for "everlasting"

Post by Jonathan Robie » June 2nd, 2018, 2:16 pm

Hmmm, I can find the Latin text for that easily in two different books, but I don't see the Greek text.

This is a readable version of Origen's works:
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