Athanasius Contra Gentes

Barry Hofstetter
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Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

Post by Barry Hofstetter » June 18th, 2019, 4:03 pm

Stirling Bartholomew wrote:
June 18th, 2019, 2:32 pm

Right. I can't be bothered to use my hard copies of LSJ and Lampe and I was trying to read Contra Gentes w/o using a computer. That may be a lost cause. My study of On The Incarnation was done entirely on my Mac. Don't like to spend hours a day facing the glowing screen. But w/o access to hyperlinked lexicons you are at an enormous disadvantage.
I don't miss flipping through the pages of the lexicon, not one bit. But they still look nice on the bookshelf, and in case of an extended power outage... :lol:

Having said that, though, I still find having a printed text gives me the best reading experience. So in reading the Iliad, I have the printed text, and simultaneously up on the glow screen. Doing Cicero's Pro Milone the same way for my extra-curricular Latin reading. But my NT and LXX readings often take place waiting for a bus or the like, because they require less attention than texts I haven't read before, and so I don't seem to mind doing it on the phone.
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Peng Huiguo
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Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

Post by Peng Huiguo » June 19th, 2019, 1:50 am

>look nice on the bookshelf, and in case of an extended power outage
>having a printed text gives the best reading experience

We're talking about LSJ here though — thing's as big and heavy as a bag of bricks, and its print's eye-killing. If the power outage's in the end time, when lights wane and roads jam, God have mercy on the LSJ hoarder.
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Stirling Bartholomew
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Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

Post by Stirling Bartholomew » July 17th, 2019, 1:48 pm

§ 4.1Ἀποστᾶσα τῆς τῶν νοητῶν θεωρίας, καὶ ταῖς κατὰ μέρος τοῦ σώματος ἐνεργείαις καταχρωμένη, καὶ ἡσθεῖσα τῇ τοῦ σώματος θεωρίᾳ καὶ ἰδοῦσα καλὸν ἑαυτῇ εἶναι τὴν ἡδονήν, πλανηθεῖσα κατεχρήσατο τῷ τοῦ καλοῦ ὀνόματι, καὶ ἐνόμισεν εἶναι τὴν ἡδονὴν αὐτὸ τὸ ὄντως καλόν· ὥσπερ εἴ τις, τὴν διάνοιαν παραπληγείς, καὶ ἀπαιτῶν ξίφος κατὰ τῶν ἀπαντώντων, νομίζοι τοῦτο εἶναι τὸ σωφρονεῖν.

§ 4.1 Having departed from the contemplation of the things of thought, and using to the full the several activities of the body, and being pleased with the contemplation of the body, and seeing that pleasure is good for her, she was misled and abused the name of good, and thought that pleasure was the very essence of good: just as though a man out of his mind and asking for a sword to use against all he met, were to think that soundness of mind. — J.H. Newman
At this point the author is in the middle of a lengthy discussion of the human fall into corruption. My question is about Greek philosophy. The conflict between τῆς τῶν νοητῶν θεωρίας and ἡσθεῖσα τῇ τοῦ σώματος θεωρίᾳ, where does this come from, Plato?
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