[B-Greek] STOMA

Albert Pietersma albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Mon Jun 9 05:52:37 EDT 2008


On Jun 9, 2008, at 4:09 AM, vasilis tsialas wrote:

> After a quick research in LSJ, I found that STOMA has been usedfor  
> the metalic ending of weapons since Homer. Furthermore,there is, at  
> least, one other word used for the edge of the sword, AKME.
> (ἀ. φασγάνου, ὅπλων, Pi.P.9.81, Plb.15.16.3 (pl.);  
> ὀδόντων Pi.N.4.63, etc.; λόγχης ἀκμή E.Supp. 
> 318),as it happens with 2 Mc 12:20.
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> On the other hand, for spears and arows we have also the  
> wordαιχμή (AIHME) as the penetrating point.
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> Something interesting is that in the Hebrew Scriptures we see  
> thesame metaphor with mouth.
You are quite right. Since STOMA in such cases is not a Hebraism but,  
instead, standard Greek usage, NETS renders it as "edge."
Al

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>> From: cwconrad2 at mac.com> To: beata.urbanek at op.pl> Date: Fri, 6 Jun  
>> 2008 06:04:13 -0400> CC: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re:  
>> [B-Greek] STOMA> > > On May 27, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Beata Urbanek  
>> wrote:> > > Dear B-Greekers,> >> > I'd like to know if the word  
>> STOMA is a typical way of naming an > > edge of a sword.> > I  
>> wonder if there is any connection between these two meanings of >  
>> > STOMA: mouth and edge. A connection which could be a base for  
>> the > > metaphor of a sword as a word.> >> > Any help  
>> appreciated.> >> > Beata Urbanek> > University of Silesia, Poland>  
>> > It occasionally happens that an inquiry sent to the list such as  
>> this > one elicits no responses whatsoever. Whether any particular  
>> inquiry > will draw any response or initiate a vigorous discussion  
>> is something > I scratch my head at. All I can offer by way of a  
>> reason for the > diversity of responses is that tastes differ: de  
>> gustibus non > disputandum est. My inclination is to avoid  
>> commenting on something > about which I know that my response  
>> would be merely speculative, but I > know that I have on occasion  
>> found it impossible not to respond even > when I realize all too  
>> well that I'm speculating. On the other hand, I > like to keep  
>> unanswered inquiries in my "in" box for several days > before  
>> filing them away on the chance that I might yet investigate > that  
>> question a bit further and try to offer a response. On more than >  
>> one occasion I have had off-list expressions of puzzlement, "Why  
>> won't > anybody answer my question?!!" Well, there are several  
>> possible > explanations (and I don't think the question itself  
>> deserves a thread > of speculative answers!).> > Beata's question  
>> is one that should send anyone to the lexicon (I > didn't go there  
>> until prompted by an off-list query by Beata as to why > there had  
>> been no response to her question!). And the lexicon (both > BDAG  
>> and LSJ) does not equivocate but offers a pretty clear answer: >  
>> the metaphor here is of the front edge of something. BDAG #4 puts  
>> it > pretty succinctly: "The sword, like the jaws of a wild  
>> animal, devours > people." As soon as I read that, I remembered my  
>> fascination some > years ago at the discovery of the metaphorical  
>> use of DAKNW ("bite") > for stinging, annoying, stimulating, etc.  
>> That seems consistent with > the usage of STOMA for the edge of  
>> the sword, the part of it that has > the "bite" or "sting."> >  
>> Carl W. Conrad> Department of Classics, Washington University  
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