Re: Questions on 1 Pet.2:11-16

From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Sun Sep 28 1997 - 18:16:04 EDT


At 3:01 PM -0500 9/28/97, Martin Arhelger wrote:
>C.W.Conrad wrote as to my answer concerning 1Peter 2:11 ("I
>think it modifies PARAKALW. Here are some reasons"):
>
>>Perhaps this may seem a quibble, but in formal >grammatical
>analysis I think
>>we'd want to say that hWS PAROIKOUS KAI >PAREPIDHMOUS must
>construe with and therefore >technically *modify* an implicit
>accusative *object* of >PARAKALW.
>>It is those who are being exhorted who are to be >exhorted just
>as strangers
>>and sojourners would be exhorted. So, I think that (see >note
>below on what
>>Kuehl says) that hUMAS must be implicit here, even if >not
>expressed, and to
>>get this into English, at least, we do have to supply the
>>object pronoun,
>>"I exhort YOU as ..."
>
>
>ok.
>I think the problem of Theo was, to decide between the two
>following translations:
>
>1) I exhort you as sojourners and pilgrims, to abstain from
>fleshly lusts ...
>
>2) I exhort you, to abstain from fleshly lusts as
>sojourners and pilgrims ...
>
>Am I right, that you agree with me, as to the preference of the
>FIRST translation?

Genau so. I guess I did not realize that's what you meant.

>Of course, the hWS PAROIKOUS KAI PAREPIDHMOUS must construe with
>an implicit hUMAS as accusative object of PARAKALW (and this
>hUMAS is expressed in English - and in German as well).
>
>But the thought of Kuehl was, that this hUMAS must have been
>EXPLICITLY in the WRITTEN text to adopt the first translation;
>and seeing, that it is NOT in the written text, Kuehl adopts the
>second translation. And that form of argument is, what I denied
>and still deny.
>
>To the rest of your e-mail I fully agree.
>
>I apologise for my bad English, that may have led to some
>uncertainty.

Es ist ganz gleich. Some of us who write English all the time can't
understand each other. I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you meant
previously.

Carl W. Conrad
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