Re: 1 Pet 3:19

From: Ben Crick (ben.crick@argonet.co.uk)
Date: Thu Dec 04 1997 - 23:20:35 EST


On Tue 2 Dec 97 (22:43:59 +1000), r.strelan@mailbox.uq.edu.au wrote:
> The Rendel Harris article is in The Expositor 4 (Sixth Series) 346-349.
> Published in 1904 by Hodder & Stoughton in London. He has another
> article in the same volume arguing for 1 Enoch (Greek version) traces
> in 1 Peter. Rendel Harris simply posits the argument - he certainly
> does not shoot it down himself.

> I'm just curious about such things. Rev 17:5 reads BABULWN H MEGALH H
> MHTHR. Does the adjective describe BABULWN or H MHTHR?

 Hullo again Rick,

 Thanks for the info. My GNT reads BABULWN hH MEGALH, hH MHTHR TWN PORNWN
 KTL. That seems to settle it; but does it make any significant difference
 where the comma goes? It is normal for the noun to precede the adjective
 when both are arthrous. BABULWN is already definite, so needs no hH.

 But to business. I came across this just now:

 "NOTE 1, p 379. ~1 Peter III. 18-22, AND THE JEWISH LITERATURE.
 "The idea that the key to the obscure passage in the third chapter of
 First Peter is to be sought in the non-canonical Jewish books, is by
 no means new. Among others, Daniel Heinsius, as we gather from
 Rosenmueller's /Scholia/, looked to the Book of Enoch for the explanation
 of the paragraph, and understood the punishment of angels to be the
 thing referred to. In adopting this line of interpretation Baur was
 followed by Volkmar, Ewald, and others. More recently the same idea
 has been revived by Friedrich Spitta, who gives it also a new form.

 "He takes the /preaching/ to be one of /judgment/, and the 'spirits in
 prison' to be fallen angels. But whereas Baur supposed the preaching
 to have occured after Christ's death, Spitta understands it to have
 taken place before the incarnation. He agrees, therefore, with those
 who regard the Subject [sc. of EKHRUXEN] who is in view as the pre-
 incarnate Logos; and he elaborates his interpretation with much
 acuteness, bringing it into relation with other statements in the two
 Petrine Epistles, making large use of the many passages in the
 pseudepigraphic books which speak of the punishment of angels, and
 directing attention to others which assign to Enoch characteristics
 elsewhere given to Messiah. See his /Christi Predigt an die Geister/."

 From Stewart DF Salmond, MA DD FEIS, /The Christian Doctrine of
 Immortality/, Edinburgh, (4th Ed) 1901, pp 551f.

 Here's another "old boy" to add to your collection (Salmond, not Baur!!!)

 Suddenly feeling my age,

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