Re: A SUMMARY OF THE ISSUES SURROUNDING EGW EIMI IN JOHN 8:58

From: Cindy Smith (cms@dragon.com)
Date: Fri Sep 04 1998 - 15:18:35 EDT


>From: MX%"GregStffrd@aol.com" 3-SEP-1998 01:15:13.89
>To: MX%"b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu"
>Subj: Re: A SUMMARY OF THE ISSUES CURROUNDING EGW EIMI IN JOHN 8:58

>In a message dated 9/2/98 7:10:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>lemuel@bcd.weblinq.com writes:
>
><< Fellow members,
>
> The use of EIMI as a stative verb was discussed sometime ago and I think it
>is still in the B-Greek archives.
>
>Going to Exodus 3:14, the title (if spoken by Jesus in Aramaic or Hebrew),
>may allude to his prior existence. I guess the sense of the passage should be
>consistent with the intent of the Jews to pick up stones to stone him.
>
> EGW EIMI is likely the equivalent to the phraseology in that cited text.
>
> Lemuel G. Abarte
> Mansilingan Bible Study Center
> Bacolod City >>
>
>Just a quick reminder that we discussed the possible connection with Exodus
>3:14 earlier, and it was also noted that the reaction of the Jews would be
>quite in line with Jesus' assertion vis-a-vis the Jews' view of Abraham. Also
>regarding to the Jews' reaction to EGW EIMI (ANI HU) in John 8:58, a
>consideration of Mark 14:62 (Luke 22:70), where the predicate is "Christ," may
>prove insightful.

It might also be interesting to look at Matthew 14:27

        [hO IHSOUS] AUTOIS LEGWN, THARSEITE, EGW EIMI MH PHOBEISTHE.

and Mark 6:50

        KAI LEGEI AUTOIS, THARSEITE, EGW EIMI MH PHOBEISTHE.

Also Acts 9:5 EGW EIMI IHSOUS hON SU DIWKEIS
     Acts 22:8 EGW EIMI IHSOUS hO NAZWRAIOS hON SU DIWKEIS.
     Acts 26:15 EGW EIMI IHSOUS hON SU DIWKEIS.
     Luke 24:39 hOTI EGW EIMI AUTOS
     Acts 18:10 DI hOTI EGW EIMI META SOU

Also Revelation 22:16 EGW EIMI hH hRIZA KAI TO GENOS DAVID, hO ASPHR
                        hO LAMPROS hO PRWINOS.

Revelation 1:17 EGW EIMI hO PRWTOS KAI hO ESXATOS

REVELATION 2:23 Hoti egw eimi Ho eraunwn vephrous kai kardias

And especially Revelation 21:6

        EGW EIMI TO ALPHA KAI TO W, hH ARXH KAI TELOS.

Although not directly in this line of thought, Matthew 24:5 is
interesting, EGO EIMI hO XRISTOS.

Also Luke 22:70 uMEIS LEGETE hOTI EGW EIMI.

Additionally, Peter uses this phrase to refer to himself in Acts 10:21

        IDOU EGW EIMI ON ZHTEITE

Does it count when EGW and EIMI are separated, as in Matthew 28:20,
EGW METH' hUMWN EIMI etc. ?

>Greg Stafford

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