1 john 2:1

From: Grant (grant@cajun.net)
Date: Tue Dec 21 1999 - 21:17:08 EST


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<DIV><FONT size=2>I just found an article off a CD with biblical commentaries on
certain subjects.&nbsp; I don't know the scholarly level of it; therefore, I
won't give an opinion but I'd like some to see if it is applicable to our
discussion because somebody made a point about the aorist tense being used and
the article makes reference to that tense.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT
size=2>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;.</FONT><FONT
size=2>At 1 John 2:1, the apostle John says: "If any man sin, we have an
advocate with the Father" (<I>KJ</I>). The Greek verb for "sin" is in the aorist
tense, hence the time of the action is punctiliar, or momentary. The aorist
tense here points to one act of sinning, whereas the present infinitive would
denote the condition of being a sinner or the continuous or progressive action
in sinning. So John does not speak of someone carrying on a practice of sinning,
but of one who does "commit <I>a</I> <I>sin."</I> (Compare Mt 4:9, where the
aorist indicates that the Devil did not ask Jesus to do constant or continuous
worship to him, but "an <I>act</I> of worship.")</DIV>
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<P>But, if 1 John 3:6, 9 is read without taking into account the fact that the
verb there is in the present tense, John seems to contradict his words above
noted. The <I>King</I> <I>James</I> <I>Version</I> reads: "Whosoever abideth in
him sinneth not," and, "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin." These
renderings fail to carry over into English the continuous action denoted by the
present tense of the Greek verbs used. Some modern translations, instead of
saying here, "sinneth not" and "doth not commit sin," take note of the
continuous action and render the verbs accordingly: "does not <I>practice</I>
sin," "does not <I>carry</I> <I>on</I> sin" (<I>NW</I>); <I>"practices</I> sin,"
<I>"makes</I> <I>a</I> <I>practice</I> of sinning" (<I>CB</I>); "does not
<I>habitually</I> sin," "does not <I>practice</I> sin" (<I>Ph</I>); "does not
<I>continue</I> to sin" (<I>TEV</I>). Jesus commanded his followers at Matthew
6:33: <I>"Keep</I> <I>on,</I> then, seeking first the kingdom," indicating
continuous effort, rather than merely "seek ye first the kingdom" (<I>KJ</I>).
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</P>
<P>I don't fully understand the extent to which it is saying so like I said
before, I'm reserving comments on it. But someone's opinion is most welcomed.
Thanks</P>
<P>Sincerely,</P>
<P>Grant Polle</P>
<P>"Everything is the Devil to you, mama" --Statement from Adam Sandler in
the<BR>film "Water Boy"<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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