From: Iver Larsen (alice-iver_larsen@wycliffe.org)
Date: Thu Jan 18 2001 - 13:45:41 EST
Fair enough, Carl. I'm willing to learn the jargon used in Greek classrooms in
the US.
I would still be interested in your comment about the exception I found to the
rule.
You said
> what we DON'T see with forms of PAS is hOI PANTES ANQRWPOI.
How would you then explain Acts 27:37: HMEQA DE hAI PASAI YUCAI EN TWi PLOIWi
276?
As far as I can see hAI PASAI YUCAI is a construction with PAS in the
attributive position, something that we are not supposed to see in Greek.
Carlton said:
"The attributive position for an adjective would
be following the article either preceeding the noun or following the noun.
PAS never occurs in the attributive position with the article."
In the following instances PAS follows the article and the noun. Is this still
an attributive position or is it predicative because it follows the noun but is
not immediately preceded by an article?
Matt 9:35 TAS POLEIS PASAS
Matt 26:56 hOI MAQHTAI PANTES
Mark 1:5 hOI IEROSOLUMITAI PANTES
John 5:22 THN KRISIN PASAN
While it is possible to have article+noun+article+adjective, such a constuction
is not possible with PAS, because PAS is a different kind of "adjective", often
called quantifier in descriptive linguistics. I believe it is helpful to
distinguish between different kinds of "adjectives" in order to describe why
they behave differently.
Another question. How do you explain to your students the difference in meaning
between PANTES hOI MAQHTAI and hOI MAQHTAI PANTES?
Even if we speak different "languages" I would like to keep up the
cross-cultural communication. I believe we can learn from each other, even
though - or maybe especially because - we look at the same data from different
angles.
Best wishes,
Iver Larsen
Kolding, Denmark
alice-iver_larsen@wycliffe.org
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