[b-greek] Re: EGW EIMI in Isaiah 47:8,10

From: Brian (brian@discoveryhills.org)
Date: Wed Mar 14 2001 - 17:09:40 EST


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<FONT FACE="Geneva"><I>On 3/12/01 10:39 AM, &quot;Dan Parker&quot; &lt;stoixein@sdf.lonestar.org&gt; wrote:<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#006600">&gt;&gt; that might have a meaning for Semitic Babylonians. And I'm well aware that<BR>
&gt;&gt; Exodus 3:14 doesn't say in the LXX simply EGW EIMI. So: I don't know or<BR>
&gt;&gt; claim any assurance that Exodus 3:14 is alluded to here, but I certainly<BR>
&gt;&gt; think there's a possibility of it.<BR>
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&gt;&gt; Carl W. Conrad (retired)<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000098">&gt; <BR>
&gt; Carl,<BR>
&gt; I am curious as to why you think there is a possibility. &nbsp;It it based<BR>
&gt; on either Hebrew or Greek grammar?<BR>
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&gt; Regards,<BR>
&gt; Dan Parker<BR>
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&gt; Greetings,<BR>
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It has been a long time since I have had time to join the friendly fray.<BR>
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I am curious, why you may think that the Greek or Hebrew grammar <U>precludes</U> the author of this portion of Isaiah from <U>poetically</U> placing in the mouth of Babylon a &quot;<U>variation of a significant motif from Torah</U>&quot;, as happens frequently in the book of Isaiah?<BR>
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It seems to me that such decisions do move beyond mere grammatical/syntactical precision, and always involve hermeneutics. Therefore, <U>on the basis of the Greek alone</U>, both your positions are <U>plausible and inconclusive</U>.<BR>
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This is one of my disappointments with this forum, on occasion. &nbsp;We pretend that hermeneutics won&#8217;t enter our discussion, but we all bring our own with us wherever we go. &nbsp;It seems to me when we talk about plausible or legitimate semantics of the Greek, we are being as objective and neutral as possible in this situation. I may side with Conrad on this text, but I know it is because of a theologically informed hermeneutic. &nbsp;Therefore, scholarly humility demands of me that I recognize your point as equally grammatically legitimate.<BR>
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Am I insane here, or does what I suggest ring of balance, and potential for learning and dialogue?<BR>
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Just a student thinking out loud,<BR>
Brian P. Swedburg<BR>
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