[b-greek] Re: Ignatius to the Ephesians, Greeting

From: Eric B. Sowell (bradyman@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Jul 25 2001 - 23:02:02 EDT


You are indeed correct. Thanks.

Eric

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From: "Richard Ghilardi" <qodeshlayhvh@juno.com>
To: "Biblical Greek" <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Cc: <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: [b-greek] Re: Ignatius to the Ephesians, Greeting


> Dear Richard, Eric and B-greekers,
>
> Both of you have begun your translations of Ignatius' salutation with
> << Ignatius and Theophorus, >>
> as if "Ignatius" and "Theophoros" were two distinct individuals.
>
> QEOFOROS is, in fact, a nickname which IGNATIOS has given himself. That
> this is the case is made clear by the structure of the Greek:
>
> IGNATIOS, hO KAI QEOFOROS
>
> The presence of the definite article shows that QEOFOROS is in apposition

> to IGNATIOS. It should be rendered into English as follows:
>
> "Ignatius, who is also called God-bearer..."
>
> Compare the greetings in Paul's letters where he mentions a co-sender ( I
> Cor, II Cor, Phil, Col, I Thes, II Thes, Phm). The form of the sender in
> I Cor, II Cor, Col, and Phm is:
>
> pr noun-app-conj-pr noun-art-app
>
> In I Thes and II Thes it's:
>
> pr noun-conj-pr noun-conj-pr noun
>
> And in Phil it's:
>
> pr noun-conj-pr noun-app
>
> Whereas in IgEph (and all his letters) it's:
>
> pr noun-art-conj-app
>
> The presence of the article in the Pauline examples always indicates a
> noun in apposition to the second sender, never an additional sender. And
> so it is with Ignatius. The KAI does not join an additional sender to
> IGNATIOS but serves to intensify or emphasize the appositional
> constituent, as the translation above demonstrates. If Ignatius had meant
> to indicate and additional sender, he would have omitted the article
> altogether, thus:
>
> IGNATIOS KAI QEOFOROS
>
> Cf. BDAG, KAI 2h and Lake's translation in Loeb.
>
> Yours in His grace,
>
> Richard Ghilardi -- qodeshlayhvh@juno.com
> New Haven, CT USA
> Nibai kaurno hwaiteis gadriusando in airtha gaswiltith,
> silbo ainata aflifnith: ith jabai gaswiltith, manag akran bairith.
>
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