On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:36:21 GMT "Mark Wilson" writes: > > Ted Mann wrote: > > > >I would be appreciative if someone would be kind enough to provide me > >with a list of those passages in the TR which are not supported by any > >Greek manuscript evidence at all. Many thanks. > > > This question reminded me that I have never understood something > about the Textus Receptus. > > I have read Dr. White's King James Only Controvery, and found it > most helpful. However, I was a bit disappointed that Dr. White no where > defines the TR is such a way as to clarify it for me. > > He does indicate that the TR was not a "unit" until the printing of > the KJV in 1611. That is, prior to that, it was several manuscripts of the > Byzantine text-type. > > Notice this comment by Dr. Wallace: > > "The Textus Receptus here refers to the edition used by Hodges and > Farstad, namely, the Oxford edition of 1825." > > This leads me to believe that the TR is still not a "unit." That is, > there appears to be multiple "editions." And Dr. White actually provides a > comparison chart that compares one TR with another TR. > > Could someone help me understand what the TR is? Or, what the TRs > are? I studied under Hodges for 4 years. He endorsed the TR, but more accurately the MT (majority text). I personally found his argumentation rather faulty and sided more with the eclectic approach (go with the oldest and shortest manuscripts, especially when supported by different text families). My understanding of the TR probably coincides with Wallace's statement. That is, the TR was the text supplied by Erasmus and used by the King James translators and reflected, I assume, in the Oxford edition of 1825. That text did finally include the contested I Jn 5:8 verse included by Erasmus only because he had said he would not include any textual reading that did not have a Greek manuscript support and thought he would not have to include this verse, since there existed no known Greek manuscript support. Vulgate supporters, however, quickly copied that verse from the Latin into a Greek manuscript. Hence, he had to include it. Paul Dixon --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu