At 12:26 PM -0600 12/31/97, David L. Moore wrote:
>
> The formal quote of 1 Enoch in Jude 14 does suggest that the
>teaching of at least some portions of the former were well regarded
in
>apostolic circles.
This is, I think, definitely not an appropriate topic for discussion on
B-Greek, but I would be happy to learn (OFF-LIST) of ideas regarding
the authority-status of non-canonical books cited as authorities by
canonical writers. For instance, David has observed, quite reasonably,
that the author of Jude must have held 1 Enoch as in some sense
"inspired." Just what might that mean?
I do think that the use of these words, TARTAROS and hADHS raise very
interesting questions about "authorial intent" and the extent to which
traditional Greek conceptions of the underworld were shared by NT
authors who used them. Certainly I'd be very wary of making any rigid
assertions about what the authors did or did not mean, but I'm reminded
of a statement by a bishop of the Church of India that "Christianity is
a pot plant that will develop different growth habits in different
soils and climates." I think that what Louw and Nida offer on hADHS is
very carefully formulated, but it doesn't completely resolve the
questions presented by the word:
Geneva1.19
hADHS, OU
Genevam:Geneva
a place or abode of the dead, including both the righteous and the
unrighteous (in most contexts hADHS
Geneva is equivalent to the Hebrew term
Sheol) - 'the world of the dead, Hades.' 'he was not abandoned in the
world of the dead' Ac 2:31. There are several problems involved in
rendering hADHS Geneva as
'world of the dead,' since in some languages this may be interpreted as
suggesting that there are two different earths, one for the living and
another for the dead. In such cases, hADHS
Geneva may be more satisfactorily rendered
as 'where the dead are' or 'where the dead remain.'
12.50 PULAI
hADOUGeneva: (an idiom,
literally 'gates of Hades') death as an impersonal supernatural power -
'death.'
Helenapu/lai
aâödou ouj katiscu/sousin aujthv§
Geneva'the gates of Hades will
not prevail against it' or 'death will never be able to overcome it' Mt
16:18. Some scholars, however, understand
PULAI hADOU
Genevato mean Satanic powers
of evil.
Carl W. Conrad
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