> "Born again" is a 2 dimensional western translation but the Semitic > languages are > more 3 dimensional and other meanings are often intended. Aramaic > Min d'rish > can also > mean "from the first beginning" This is the same root as bereshit at > Genesis > 1:1 and lo and behold > Genesis 1:2 speaks of the breath of God moving upon the face of the > WATERS. > The > mystical Jesus appears to be telling Nicodemus to start the creation > process > all over again. > > Jack > > Isn't it too complicated? Can't it rather refer to Ezekiel 36:25-27: 25 And I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep mine ordinances, and do them. Here you have both water and spirit, and the messianic hope of Israel. In Messiah, Dmitriy Reznik ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu