7F00,0000,0000I am presently doing an in depth study of the "arguments" of cessation and non-cessation.
I checked the archives but was unable to come up with the specific
information I was looking for.
Realizing that this particular subject has caused a great deal of
division I will ask the questions specifically.
Quoting from a document of my study:
FF00,0000,0000(1 Cor 13:8 KJV) Charity never faileth: but whether there be
prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall
cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
Times New Roman 1. prophecy will be done away
Sgreekprofhtei=ai katarghqh/sontai
Times New Roman 2. tongues will cease
Sgreekglw=ssai pau/sontai
Times New Roman 3. knowledge will be done away
Sgreekgnw=sij katarghqh/setaiTimes New Roman
It should be clear from these three phrases that prophecy, tongues and
knowledge are temporary gifts; however, we are not told when these
three gifts will cease to function, and we are not told why they will cease
to function.
Now let's examine the grammatical construction of the verbs used to
indicate the temporary nature of these three gifts.
Sgreek Times New Roman(prophecy) Sgreekkatarghqh/sontai Times New Roman3rd person plural, future
passive indicativeSgreek
Times New Roman(tongues) Sgreekpau/sontai 3Times New Romanrd person plural, future middle
indicativeSgreek
Times New Roman(knowledge) Sgreekkatarghqh/setai Times New Roman3rd person singular, future
passive indicativeSgreek
Times New RomanThere are two major and significant differences in the three verbs used to
indicate the temporary nature of these three spiritual gifts:
out1. The root verb used with the temporary gift of tongues is
different from the root verb used with the other two temporary
gifts.
out
out2. The verb used with tongues is in the "middle voice" while the
verb used with both prophecy and knowledge is in the "passive
voice."
What is the significance of the middle voice as opposed to the passive
voice?
out1. The middle voice, used with tongues, indicates that the gift of
tongues would work against itself to bring about its own
termination.
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out2. The passive voice, used with prophecy and knowledge, means
that the subject receives the action of the main verb.
out
FF00,0000,0000ArialMy question concerning the aforementioned: Is the aforementioned
exegesis proper and correct ?Times New Roman
Secondly from the same document:
Should Tongues Really be Coveted?: 1 Corinthians 12:31
left1 Corinthians 12:31 But covet earnestly the best
gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
(KJV)
This verse presents a problem for anyone who is translating from the
original Greek language. The very first word in the Greek sentence is the
word Sgreekzhlou=te,Times New Roman and herein lies the problem. This word can be correctly
translated in three different ways.Sgreek
Times New Roman Sgreekzhlou=teTimes New Roman second person plural, present active imperative
Sgreekzhlou=te Times New Romansecond person plural, present active subjunctiveSgreek
zhlou=te Times New Romansecond person plural, present active indicative
Each of these grammatical constructions has its own translation. For
example:
Sgreekzhlou=teTimes New Roman second person plural, present active imperative
out The imperative mood is a command, and this translation would
demand the force of a command. Unfortunately, this word is
translated as a command in the English King James Version, the
English New American Standard Version and the English New
International Version and Living Letters. Each reads as follows:
out King James: "covet earnestly"
out New American Standard: "earnestly desire"
out New international Version: "eagerly desire"
out Living Letters: "try your best to get"
Sgreekzhlou=te Times New Romansecond person plural, present active subjunctiveSgreek
outTimes New Roman The subjunctive mood recognizes the free will of the individual
and then points them in a desired direction. Unfortunately, this
word is translated in this manner in the New English Bible. It
reads as follows:
out New English Bible: "you should aim at"
Sgreek zhlou=te Times New Romansecond person plural, present active indicative
out No English version of the Bible translates this verb to reflect the
indicative mood. To reflect the indicative mood, this verb
would be translated in the following manner:
out King James: "you are coveting earnestly"
out New American Standard: "you are earnestly desiring"
out New International Version: "you are eagerly desiring"
out Living Letters: "you are trying your best to get"
out Only the indicative mood properly reflects the polemic nature of 1
Corinthians 12 and 14. The polemic nature, then, demands that 1
Corinthians 12:31 be understood as Paul exposing a problem in the
church at Corinth, namely, the abuse of the gift of tongues. He was
not commanding them to seek after a specific gift, namely, tongues.
out It is interesting that a footnote on 1 Corinthians 12:31 in the New
International Version is the only reference in any modern English
version wherein an appropriate translation is rendered. This
footnote reads as follows:
out New International Version: "But you are eagerly desiring"
Conclusion: 1 Corinthians 12:31 does not command present day
believers to seek the gift of tongues. In fact, when properly translated,
this verse accuses the Corinthian believers of wrongfully seeking the
tongues gift.
7F00,0000,0000Same questions as above.
If you have websites or expositions on this subject.. I would appreciate
the input to my personal e mail addy. That way we can stick to the greek
in reference to the two verses and the propsed exegesis of them.
thanks
Pastor Dan Oglesby
http://www.crcc-oca.org
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