I searched the archives and found a vast amount of information concerning John 1:1c, and it is not my intention to restart a thread that has been successfully concluded, but I have found something in the Septuagint which gave rise to another question, that I didn't see addressed in the former thread. If it was dealt with, please forgive my lack of thoroughness. Ruth 4:21 KAI SALMAN EGENNHSEN TON BOOZ KAI BOOZ EGENNESEN TON WBED Here we see Boaz taking the definite article as the subject of the first phrase in the accusative, but the second phrase which is joined by KAI, the definite article is dropped in the nominative. I am assuming it is because the words are joined by KAI that the definite article not needed. We know Boaz in the second phrase, is clearly the same as in the first phrase. Is the same grammatic format as John 1:1? Is this a valid comparison verse grammatically? John seemed to phrase his Greek by from the Septuagint in several places, at least in my very humble opinion: [EN ARCH Gen 1, EGW EIMI Ex 3:14]). Could it be that John 1:1 is sort of an anti-geneology, ie. the LOGOS was not born or never did not exist, so John explains his preexistence in a geneologic phrase, in an allusion perhaps to Matthew beginning with Jesus' legal geneology? I could be way off-base, since I am mostly self-taught, but if the comparison holds up, the correct translation would then be "The Word was with God and God was the Word." Does that violate some other rule of grammar? Thanks in advance for your learned opinions. Steve ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Long president Allegro Graphics, Inc., Allegro Digital Media, Inc. 4132 Industrial Drive, Saint Peters, Missouri 63376 1-888-819-8166 toll-free steve@websrv.com, steve@allegrographics.com http://www.websrv.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- b-greek home page: http://sunsite.unc.edu/bgreek To post a message to the list, mailto:b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, mailto:subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu To unsubscribe, mailto:unsubscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu?subject=[cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu]