> >The aforementioned definition is a matter I admittedly need to do >further study on. But the question is my mind is, can the word >MAKARIOS carry both of these ideas simultaneously? Could God be both >blessed and happy? Or, could he be seen as only "happy" in the context >of 1 Tim. 1:11? This suggestion has been raised by a participant on >this list. Maybe some might consider this type of theologia, >"primitive anthropomorphism," but I personally think its an awesome >thought that hO PANTOKRATWR could be "happy" or joyful in a sense >analogous to humans. > >Any other thoughts would certainly be appreciated. > Geneva Zep 3:17Geneva The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. I think his joy is beyond awesome! He is happy beyond our comprehension. Steve ___________________________________ Steve Long steve@allegrographics.com Saint Peters, Missouri ___________________________________ --- B-Greek home page: http://sunsite.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-329W@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu n the mores of classicists. That led him to give statistics about the decline of Greek in HS and University teaching. The University of Aberdeen abolished the classics departments under Margaret Thatcher. The University of Saskatchewam [spelling?] is doing it at the present time. Then he asked, "How can we stem the decline? And how prepare the next generation of translators?" Where is textual criticism being taught? And who knows any languages other than Greek needed for TC? Years ago, when the RSV was done, the director of the translation team had learned Latin, Greek, and Hebrew in HS! Translation of the NT demands scholars who know the spread of the Greek language from Homer on! [That is Metzger talking, not Ed Krentz--though I share his opinion!] We need enthusiasm for learning the language, but where can such translators be prepared? In the discussion I noted that we needed to identify classicists who are also committed Christians. I mentioned Herbert Howe, Episcopalian who teaches [or taught] at the University of Wisconsin, Roger Bagnall, Lutheran at Columbia University and premier papyrologist, Carl Conrad, etc. Classicists are recovering the reading of the NT in Greek as part of the early Roman Empire's history and culture. Carl Conrad has cited the Italian proverb on this list, "Traditore tradutore," Translators are traitors. That is complicated a great deal when the translators do not know the original language well--and are also not sensitive to the target language. I learn that over again each week as I read with seminary students next Sunday's NT lessons from the three year lectionary cycle in Greek and translate. I will be interested in reactions from the list members to Metzger's remarks (recovered from my sketchy notes] and my own interpretive editorial comments. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Edgar Krentz Acting Dean, Fall Quarter 1998 Professor of New Testament Emeritus Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago 1100 E. 55th Street Chicago, IL 60615 USA 773-256-0752 e-mail:FFFF,0000,0000 ekrentz@lstc.edu (Office) FFFF,0000,0000emkrentz@mcs.com (Home) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --- B-Greek home page: http://sunsite.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-329W@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu