On Mon 4 Dec 2000 (15:51:38), jfisher777@aol.com wrote: > That in the dispensation of the fullness of times, He might gather all > together in the Messiah, whether they are in the heavens or on the earth. > > This translation of mine just doesn't seem right. And this word > OIKONOMIAN, when did we start translating it dispensation? What are > some other flowing alternatives? > And the word ANAKEFALAIWSASQAI - what a monster! Any suggestions? Hi Jeffrey! Carl's answer is a model of "economy"; but if I may offer my suggestions: ANAKEFALAIOMAI means 'to sum up' or 'to bring together under headings' from ANA and KEFALAION. Everything is going to be completely "categorised" in the fulness of time. William the Conqueror attempted this with his Domesday Book in 1086 in England. The Latin /instaurare/ (see the Vulgate) means 'to renew' or 'to renovate', after things have been allowed to go to wrack and ruin. This is another part of Good Housekeeping, when a new Butler or Manager has taken over the running of all domestic and business affairs. The full purpose of God is going to be worked out in human history. Re OIKONOMIA. The translation 'dispensation' comes directly from Jerome's Vulgate, well known to the Authorised KJV translators: /In dispensationem plenitudinis temporum instaurare omnia in Christo, etc/. OIKONOMIA is the root of our word 'economy', meaning the running of the household (OIKOS) so as to make optimal use of all available resources. It would not stretch it too far to understand it as "good housekeeping" or "husbandry". Compare Ephesians 3:9, where the NIV translates OIKONOMIA as "administration". The KJV translators appear to have read OIKONOMIA as KOINWNIA at this point, following the Textus Receptus and a few late miniscules. BM Metzger writes "The true reading is supported by p46, all known uncials, almost all miniscules, all known versions and patristic quotations" (/A Textual Commentary on the GNT/, p 535). Jerome, always consistent, has /dispensatio/ again at Ephesians 3:9. It is only in recent times that OIKONOMIA has acquired a "Dispensationalist" connotation, as in "the Mosaic Dispensation" or "the Christian Dispensation". E&OE, IMHO, etc., ERRWSQE Ben -- Revd Ben Crick, BA CF 232 Canterbury Road, Birchington, Kent, CT7 9TD (UK) http://www.cnetwork.co.uk/crick.htm --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu