Rom. 14:20 MH hENEKEN BRWMATOS KATALUE TO ERGON TOU QEOU. PANTA MEN KAQARA, ALLA KAKON TWi ANQRWPWi TWi DIA PROSKOMMATOS ESQIONTI. Iver Larsen wrote: Steven Miller wrote: I think that Steven is correct in pointing us to PROSKOMMA. The cryptic phrase in BDAG, "Some would put this under 2," refers to meaning #2, "opportunity to experience inward pain (take offense) or make a misstep, _cause for offense, cause for making a misstep_". I find the definition a little confusing. I understand the glosses, but the definition seems to differ from them. It seems to me that the main difference between entry #1 "act of stumbling" and entry #2 (quoted above) is that the second has a causative force. The context would favor the second entry, as v. 13 introduces the section: MHKETI OUN ALLHLOUS KRINWMEN; ALLA TOUTO KRINATE MALLON, TO MH TIQENAI PROSKOMMA TWi ADELFWi H SKANDALON. Jonathan Boyd Ankeny, IA ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu g on whether users of the translation accurately > understand > the original meaning from the translation wordings we use. We can > determine > their understanding by asking them, the scientific process of field > testing. > > > The Hebrew Bible is especially full of colorful language that is > lost in > translation, > > and rightly so. > > But it is interesting to footnote it because it is so colorful, > often, > earthy, and lively. Figures of speech enliven language all > throughout the > world. We just need to be sure we translate them properly into other > languages so their figurative meaning is understood accurately. A > huge > amount of the NT is written in figurative language and with > rhetorical > devices such as irony and hyperbole, so that we can easily miss the > originally intended message if we simply translate the words. > > Wayne > ---- > Wayne Leman > Bible translation website: > http://www.geocities.com/bible_translation > Bible translation discussion list: > bible-translation-subscribe@kastanet.org > > > > > _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > --- > B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek > You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [thmann@juno.com] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to > leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu > To subscribe, send a message to > subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu